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Welcome part II

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 1, 2004 | Post #2 | Topic #2

My name is Jay Dedman. Yes, Peter is way too modest. We have had long talks about videoblogging and wanted to bring other people into the conversation. The ability to put video on blogs seems amazing to us, but there seem to be some obstacles. 1. Technically, the process takes too long.(capture, import, optimize, write some HTML, post). 2. existing servers don't allow much bandwidth and storage space. You'll either get screwed becasue too mnay people watch your posts, or you have to earse your archive video because youre out of space. 3. what is the language of videoblogging? is it little movies? or moments from your life? We believe that if we get interested people together, we'll answer all these questions. So this is the beginning. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]




By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 14, 2004 | Post #10 | Topic #10

Okay. Looks like we got a good group of people here to discuss videoblogging. Some of you I know personally. Some I know through your sites. Let me introduce myself. During the day, I work at a community TV station in Manhattan where anyone can come in and make a TV show. We have 4 TV channels that is open to the public. People can either use theor own equipment or get the free use use of our equipment. No censorship exists. Currently, we program 1200 shows per week ranging from political conversations to artistic explorartions to complete confusion. When videoblogging came out, I got excited. Video holds a lot of information and is a great way to show people something they dont get anywhere else. But can it work on the web? Let's start with a simple question. For those of you actively videoblogging, what problems are you having? Technically and creatively. We're kind of making this up as we go (which is exciting), but let's get specific. And secondly, What are you trying to do with video in your blogs? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: [videoblogging] BloggerVision

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 15, 2004 | Post #17 | Topic #12

When I videoblog, my workflow is fairly similar to Steve Garfield's. http://www.stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ When i was first starting, I realy liked how he was transparent about his process. Peter and I discovered that digital cameras take those short MPEG's which are great for the web. Very easy to download. The whole problem comes with optimizing and then uploading and posting. I got the whole process down to about 10 minutes. Still too long. About two months ago, Peter wrote up the specs for our imaginary videoblogging tool that Adrian spoke of. http://www.me-tv.org/wakka.php?wakka=DeskTopTool&v=15x7 With just a couple of buttons you could edit, optimize and upload to your blog. I believe that Adrian is right. Through videoblogging, I want to express my daily life. Just little moments. It's like the difference between writing poetry and shooting a feature movie. "we need the sketchpad". Is anyone working on a blogging tool that you know of? Yaron, what exactly are you creating? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: [videoblogging] BloggerVision

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 15, 2004 | Post #18 | Topic #12

The other problem is memory and bandwidth. If I post a 10 second video(200k) every day, I will run out of server space pretty quickly. I dont want to erase my archives. Imagine if I had DVD quality video....how big would that file be? And if I have 500 people watch my video every day(not inconceivable), I will run out of bandwidth within a week. Peter and I are talking about renting our own server and sharing the costs with other videobloggers. would anyone be interested? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



RE: [videoblogging] BloggerVision

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 15, 2004 | Post #21 | Topic #12

Mica sent me a link to this woman's website. she studies at the MIT media lab. looks like they'd developing the kind of video interface that Peter dreamed up. http://www.audiovisceral.net/facts/this.html -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: [videoblogging] BloggerVision

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 15, 2004 | Post #27 | Topic #12

isn't this what Bit Torrent is supposed to do? it seems too clunky to me. so today we've narrowed down the problems: --we need a simple interface that edits, optimizes, and posts video to a blog. --we need to solve the problem of storage so i can keep my archived video for years to come and have a permanent video presence on the web. --we need to solve the problem of bandwidth so I wont go broke if a bunch of people decide to follow my Moments day to day. The next thing is developing a langauge of videoblogging. > > On 16/06/2004, at 5:56 AM, Yaron Samid wrote: > > > Now imagine a push-button desktop publishing tool and global network > > leveraging the efficiencies of P2P with the convenience of a viewer > > experience embedded directly in your blog. Subscribed viewers are > > notified of your new post, launch your site, and watch the video > > (which has already been delivered in the background to their local > > disk) directly in your blog post. No server space, memory, or > > bandwidth costs whatsoever. Does that model work? > > I'm confused by this, though intrigued. > > by p2p do you mean there may be multiple copies of the vog distributed > via p2p to n clients so that when client x requests the video it is > served from client y... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] some thoughts

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 16, 2004 | Post #32 | Topic #15

The videoblogging wiki is http://www.me-tv.org we're trying to document all the ideas we're having. feel free to join in. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



getting the code for a videoblogging tool

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 16, 2004 | Post #33 | Topic #12

Adrian, I got in touch with the guy, Kow Atta-Mensah, who helped the MIT woman build a pseudo-videoblogging tool. http://www.audiovisceral.net/facts/this.html He said they built it a couple years ago. The only thing they didnt do was give it an FTP function. He said we could possibly get the code for it. would anyone be interested in figuring it out if we could get the code? "im sad to tell you that i haven't made an update to that software in almost a couple of years. it was an undergraduate research project i was helping with back at MIT. i recently graduated and left the institute. i am not sure, but aisling might have had someone take over my role. you can reach her at aisling@.... just tell her i pointed you to her. sadly, i dont even have my old source, but if she does i believe she would be willing to give it to you. sort of messy, but someone java savvy should be able to figure it out. if you have any questions, i'd be glad to answer them." "i dont believe i ever finished that part(FTP)... but there are lots of open source java ftp clients (and servers) available so making the addition is pretty simple. the recording capability i built in was fast for the time (for java anyways) and im sure newer versions of the quicktime and jmf apis have been released which will make... [View]



how would you use a videoblogging tool?

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 16, 2004 | Post #36 | Topic #12

We've been talking about devloping a vdieobloggin tool. which would be amazing if we could make happen. But my question is this: how would you use it? I subscribe to all the videoblogs I can find, and most update every two weeks to every two months. definitely not daily. is videoblogging was a more intuitive process would you post video daily? what would it be? i know some people are about short Moments, while others are into edited movies. Id like to hear from some of the people who havent posted yet. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: imovie and blogs

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 17, 2004 | Post #40 | Topic #38

> Hi all, just a quick note about iMovie. With a .mac account, it takes as > little as 7 clicks to > publish a videoblog, and that's just recording only, no editing-- just > talking-head stuff. Okay, Eric, can you list these seven steps? What about compression? Quicktime is pretty clunky. You got to get these video files SMALL if you want to have any kind of blog with updated videos. Ive found that Sorenson is the best game in town for small size and pretty decent quality. Steve (http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/) puts out great looking videos, but they're huge. 10MB+. imagine trying to do that daily. But again, this is how I see videoblogging. daily videos. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



so where are we?

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 18, 2004 | Post #48 | Topic #38

Peter, okay, so we know we can post video in our blogs. its kind of clunky but it can happen. for me, the whole process really hinders the intuitive flow of text blogging. and we still havent figured out the problem of storage and bandwidth. i hear about "bit torrent" but where's the beef? am i crazy to want a videoblogging tool that does it all for me? so i can focus on the moment I capture or movie I create. one for windows, one for macs. just like everything else. Posting the video should be zero thought and effort. anyway, I like Adrian's idea: let's videoblog. starting Sunday, I'm going to post a video a day. http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ subscribe to me in Bloglines or whatever. who else is in? let's see if any of this conversation is even worth. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



videoblog-a-day

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 19, 2004 | Post #60 | Topic #57

Okay, I need to give some perspective on this conversation. I am not a programmer though I love hearing about people coming up with solutions to technical problems. What I am good at is using available media tools and teaching them to other people(what i do for a living). Creativity is difficult enough without having to worry about the tools. I have a Typepad account that lets me blog. I can upload a video as a file. Then Peter wrote some code so I can link the video in my text blog. So Steve, you have two separate host accounts? one for your blog and the other for your video? a good work around that saves bandwidth, but sucks it cant be all in one. So starting this sunday, we start the "videoblog-a-day" week. Andreas says he'll try to do a feed of our blogs. We got three people signed up. Hope others join in. Keep it simple. Focus on yourself or the people around you. It's going to be cool to see who's out there. Then after the week's done, we can see about hacking some better tools togther. By the way, Drazen (and probably Kenyatta and Eli Chapman and ?)has come up with some new plans: http://www.open4all.info/wiki/drazen/P2P-TV http://www.open4all.info/wiki/drazen/Anybody_Can_be_TV These guys have some very progressive and aggressive ideas of how to send video around. I'd have to actually see it to understand it. Last year, I helped them do... [View]



post Day 1 of videoblog week

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 21, 2004 | Post #66 | Topic #57

The videos look good. And thanks to andreas for making the link page. Peter and I walked around Central Park this afternoon, discussing all the boundaries of videoblogging. Then i see what people can do. I got a confession to make: Ive had a blog for awhile now and I just found out about "bookmarklets" today. Ive been posting by logging into Typepad and writing out each blog. Ridiculous. I'm going to post 5 times a day now. We need a videoblogging tool just as simple as a bookmarklet. Most people can't really edit video. Or know how to compress video. or write code for enclosures. You need a simple tool that people click and then walks them through the process. Like Peter says, videoblogging must "scale" and be accessible to everyone. I'm on the hunt for the most forward thinking programmer who can do open this door. See you tomorrow for day 2 of Videoblog Week. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Day 2 of videoblog week

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 21, 2004 | Post #76 | Topic #67

Here's my 2nd entry for videoblog week. http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ Peter and I talked about how its easier for us to post because we know we have at least a small audience. i found a guy, Mike Sloan, who has already been posting a video a day for like 2 years!! I invited him to our group. I want to know how he stores all his files and what his workflow is for videoblogging. Ive been learning about Bit Torrent. It seems to be used by people sharing copies of pirated movies or DAT recordings of concerts. Everything good quality. http://www.v2v.cc/ Here's a link to a group that lets you upload video with Bit Torrent. I believe that it's personal blogs that will use video better. Blogs put the video in the context I need. Why would I put up some personal video about my life on a huge shared website? By the way, i really liked Eric's video last night. I would have never known that guy just by reading his posts. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Videoblog Day 2 now online

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 22, 2004 | Post #78 | Topic #77

Looks great. Can you briefly explain to us your process for capturing, editing, and uploading your blog? do you store your video on a separate server from your blog? Quoting Eric Rice <eric@...>: > http://eric.blognews.com/blog/_archives/2004/6/21/92480.html > > And if you know of good cell phone deals. Awe yeah. Hook a brother up. > > Eric > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



reason #115 why we need a videoblogging tool

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 22, 2004 | Post #80 | Topic #77

Everyone should read Andreas adventures in videoblogging. This is why we need a videoblogging tool. I can imagine him trying to hook up a webcam and free crap edit software with no optimization on his PC. With macs, you forget how great Imovie is... _________________________ For the first time: Videoblogging on solitude! [144KB WMV file] My original plan for today was to read up my thoughts on genres in videoblogging, but instead I decided to test out the practical aspects in videoblogging. Nb.: This video isn't what I consider a �good� video entry � I'm just testing here. Somehow I had forgotten that I own a webcam and that said webcam can make videos. With my half day of experimentation I've discovered that the other videobloggers aren't whining when they claim videoblogging is hard. For my experiment I had a budget of $0 and I figured I could find some open source software like I usually do. No such luck. I ended up with Logitech's ImageStudio (free with my webcam) to record the initial clip and Microsoft's Movie Maker (comes with Windows; I'm using version 1.0) to cut off the begining and end of the clip and to encode the file as a Windows Media Video. I tried to figure out how to make a QuickTime file, but I couldn't. As the original clip was over one megabyte for eight seconds I had to encode it in some way. The... [View]



new people welcome: MAKE A VIDEO

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 23, 2004 | Post #81 | Topic #81

So Day 3 of videoblog week is over. i just posted: http://www.me-tv.org/wakka.php?wakka=VideoBloggingWeek&v=65c All kinds of different ways you can post video. personal, traditionally edited, experimental. you can do a lot of work, or a little. By the way, we got 30 members of this videoblog discussion group now. about 20 new people have joined since we started a week ago. we represent Rotterdam, Denmark, UK, Norway, philippines, Minneapolis, Bethesda, Boston, CA, NYC. I really encourage anyone new to jump in, introduce yourself: what's your experience with videoblogging? Post a video. we're not even 1/2 way through videoblog week. Like I tell Peter, I want to see what's up in other countries. You dont SEE this on the internet. I also encourage anyone new to check out our wiki: http://www.me-tv.org Add your knowledge to it. I think Aisling may be in here as well. She's the one who made the pseudo-videoblogging tool a couple years ago. what's the word? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



videoblog week makes me work

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 23, 2004 | Post #85 | Topic #81

Go here to see my Day Three Video. http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ Ive just bookmarked the wiki page to check everyone's video. http://www.me-tv.org/wakka.php?wakka=VideoBloggingWeek&v=65c It is a challenge to post a video a day. Like Steve mentions, it's making me figure out ways to make the process easier. im still spending 30 minutes doing all the uploading, optimizing, and posting. too long I think. Makes me be creative about the content as well. that's why I like Peter's mantra: why edit? You may think your video is dull, but to us it's fresh. Like text blogging, maybe videos just be part of your daily experience? check out this guy: http://www.dailyexperience.com/ he posts all the time about him and his new family. I invited him in but I dont know if he joined. What am I going to do today? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



an average person

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 23, 2004 | Post #94 | Topic #81

i can be the example of an adverage person > honestly it is too difficult for me > im lost > i dont even feel justifid in being more than an observer here Can an average person videoblog? I know mica very well and she is a smart person. But to videoblog, you need to know how to edit(and have editing software). You have to know how to optimize video(and have compression software). You have to know how to upload to your blog(and have a blog). and a camera. It's not all in one. you got to know how to move around. I'd really like to find a way where you can do it "clicl-click-click". So mica you got everything you need but a Blog and an undersatnding of the process. we can work together to make it happen. Quoting contactmica <contactmica@...>: > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "petertheman" > <peter@p...> wrote: > > Come on people! Who else wants to post a little video today > and join > > videoblogging week? Go on. It's easier than it looks, and don't > worry > > about the movies being bad, that's ok. The point is to just get > > posting. Just do it. Make a video while you're reading this > message > > of yourself, and post that! We're videoblogging geeks, we like > > *everything*. > > > > Peter > - > heya- > im really enjoying... [View]



Jay's entry for Day 4

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 24, 2004 | Post #97 | Topic #97

Check it at http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ Did everyone check out Aisling's blog? http://themauve.net/mf/04/04/16-not-for-the-squeamish-mov.html where can we get some of those phone cameras? did you post from the phone itself? this is what Mica and most people will need to videoblog.... -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]