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jumping on the bandwagon- introduction

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 19, 2005 | Post #9558 | Topic #9558

hello hello, this is a kind of pre-emtive introductionas i try to start a vlog. I'm an artist based in somerset,england.. i work mainly with sound but tend to end up doing a lot of large scale video installations/projections (there still ain't enough interest in sound art!! ) I've been helping to run a community media centre (http://www.theengineroom.net ) where we offer free access to editing equipment/software and cheap camera hire and training courses. In May we're running a festival and I have been roped into giving a talk on video blogging because we see it as a really great distribution method for the work that our users make (which ranges from community action films, animations, dramas, art stuff. etc etc) .. so here i am trying to start my own vlog. Biggest problem at the moment seems to be getting it online.. i tried uploading using the ccpublisher on saturday and as yet have seen nothing (the url i was given just says 'not found'), i've now taken to trying the ourmedia publisher as you lot seem to recommend ourmedia.. hopefully this will work! anyway.. the posts are interesting but man are there a lot to read!!! well.. thats it for now, i'lll let you know once something goes online some documentation can be seen at http://www.kleindesign.co.uk and my when my stuff is online my video blog will be at http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com cheers for now duncan [View]



29 fragile days

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 19, 2005 | Post #9564 | Topic #9564

ok, so i've actually started it now.... http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com thank yous to Michael Verdi for his tutorials and to some IRC user called FenneFox (i think that was it) at the moment i'm putting up slightly abstracted interpretations of the events around me.. but i guess i might bend back round towards a more documentary style.. duncan [View]



a personal manifesto .. first draft

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 20, 2005 | Post #9653 | Topic #9653

http://29fragiledatys.blogspot.com this is an attempt to clarify (for myself) what I'm trying to do. understand that this is a personal manifesto, NOT something i believe everyone should adopt, but of course you are welcome to work with or within it. Notes on the various points are provided afterwards, critique and debate are welcomed... the 29fragile-days manifesto 1. Visual media must document actuality 2. No actions or events are to be staged for camera 3. All sound material additional to that from the camera must be original 4. The use of pre-recorded audio samples is prohibited 5. Finished films must be published within 1 week of the actuality they document 6. Films will be only be published when they are ready 7. Published films can be freely distributed and altered but must acknowledge the original source. Notes - Points 1 + 2 I fully understand the subjectivity involved in the use of a camera and the impact its very presence can have on any given situation. This essence of this point is in providing a statement that the events depicted in this vlog actually happened, and would most likely have happened in a very similar way if the camera had not been present. The majority of my work is filmed in such a way as to not make the cameras presence public. Points 3 + 4 The separation of rules for audio and visual content in the manifesto stems purely from... [View]



correction !!! whoops

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 21, 2005 | Post #9726 | Topic #9726

sorry.. in my eagerness to try and finish a manifesto i mistyped the link... sorry the manifesto is found at http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com cheers duncan [View]



Re: high quality — elitism?

By duncan speakman | duncan speakman <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 21, 2005 | Post #9771 | Topic #9633

--there _is_ something to be said about how viewers are --conditioned to be skeptical of excessively slick production. there is truth in this but I'm not sure if i entirely agree with it... part of a trust in a media source is surely generated from our knowledge of the producer (and their reputation).. in Levinson's words 'the gatekeepers' If you read something in the New York TImes you're more likely to take it as fact than if you read it in your local paper... both printed on paper, both using black ink, both having 'quality' layouts. This reputation can be abused (e.g. by The New York Times!), but it holds the majority of the time. We're already seeing gatekeepers forming in the world of vlogging. There is way too much material to see it all, (the same way there is too much news to fit in a newspaper) so we start looking to the vloggers we trust to provide us with their favourite feeds. Reputations get built and we begin to create a new media hierarchy, whether or not this a bad thing I'm not sure, but it definitely feels like it is an eternal cycle that begins every time a new medium appears (oh.. i feel like a doomsayer now.. even though i am really really excited by vlogging and deep down i hope it will lead to some kind of seismic shift!) ---videobloggers on the whole -- through... [View]



uk videobloggers

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 22, 2005 | Post #9798 | Topic #9798

with all this talk of physical meetings I was wondering how many people on the list are from the uk? any in the south west? duncan [View]



Re: watching video blogs SHOULDN'T be easy as watching TV

By duncan speakman | duncan speakman <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 24, 2005 | Post #9895 | Topic #9895

this is an interesting discussion but i think we've got a bit lost down the technical possibilities and we're missing some key experiential points here.... vlogs shouldn't be as 'easy' as television.. .. the difference between tv and vlogs is television is a one way medium (barring phone ins and those 'oh so exciting' voting options and multiple angles on 'interactive tv' ) it's also a shared experience.. you can easily watch tv with a group of people, computers still don't have this position in our lives, they are based around the single user model (even though we will sometimes gather a few people around a machine to watch something) If you step out of the domain of ' heavy' computer users and look at a family situation (for example).. the television sits in the lounge (or living room) and the computer sits in bedrooms or workspaces.. will still divide the two. In terms of technology our televisions have more and more computing power inside them but they are still a passive (i.e. easy) experience. We choose channels but not content, and we don't have any input into that content, and we can;t easily pass that content on to other people. The talk at the moment seems to be 'lets put vlogs on tv' ... essentially to me this translates as ' i want to make television' .. as soon as we move in this direction then the whole thing... [View]



Re: watching video blogs SHOULDN'T be easy as watching TV

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 24, 2005 | Post #9897 | Topic #9895

I think a combination of TiVo and > WebTV would address some of your concerns. If we could surf > around and watch vlogs on TV, that would be really cool. It would > also be cool if we could comment on the spot. Either by an old- > fashioned text comment right on the blog -- or, a little webcam > built into the device to leave an instant video comment. That way > we don't lose the feedback loop, the community, the interactivity. but isn't this exactly what we do at the moment with computers and ever increasing bandwidth? I think my issue is with physical and psychological states that we adopt for television and computers... it's about how it fits into our lives.. if our television becomes a communication centre (with webcam, keyboard etc etc) then it means we've just moved our computer into the living room.. and we'd then possibly lose the experience of non-interactive media.. i mean i still love watching a film that has been lovingly crafted.. and i want to watch that in a space where i'm not connected to the outside world..i want to wrapped up in the singular world of that film i also want to be able to be with friends/lovers and sit back (i.e. too far away from the screen to interact!) to enjoy the shared space and experience. p.s. longer fingers might possibly be useful.. but maybe for... [View]



Re: watching video blogs SHOULDN'T be easy as watching TV

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 24, 2005 | Post #9910 | Topic #9895

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <steve@d...> wrote: > > So using the same logic ANT is destroying videoblogging too then? i wouldn't say this at all... the point of my argument is about the tools we use and the viewing mode we use in different physical situations. ANT exists as a piece of software within a computer environment where we have access to numerous other forms of 2 way communication (and is quite likely our main use of that computer... i'm generalising here becauuse obviously lots of us use the same computer for editing video, doing spreadsheets etc as we do for email and the like).. so because when we access ANT we are already in this 'active' communication environment it's different to the 'passive' environment of broadcasting. > > I suppose I should not be surprised at your view considering how you > spoke of nothing but contempt for passive viewers recently. There is nothing wrong with passive viewing, it's just different.. but i do think it's important we explore what makes vlogs different to tv and previous broadcast models.. i believe the roots of this difference lie in the ideas of active and passive viewing... one is not better than the other. It's like saying impressionism is better than realism just because one came after the other?.. > > Its all ugly elitism to me, i don't think there's any elitism going on here.. it's just people exploring... [View]



but then again…..

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 24, 2005 | Post #9911 | Topic #9911

i think steve's right.. no matter what viewing style we go for... i want a floating bath viewing device!!!! (is someone gonna make an xbox mod?) [View]



creating WMV files on mac

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
April 26, 2005 | Post #10016 | Topic #10016

couldn't find anything in the archives of the group..so I'm just putting the question out to see if anyone does this before i get wound up in export issues .. using Final Cut Pro 3.0.4 Quicktime 6 Pro any 'free' tools to export WMV files? i had some windows users recently not able to view videos because they didn't have a recent quicktime version so they gave up.. so now i'm thinking i should try and provide both.. although it seems to add an extra strain and delay to thew publishing process... anyone got better ideas.. (apart from putting in text on the site .. please download latest quicktime etc etc.) duncan http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com http://www.kleindesign.co.uk [View]



help with online video!!

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 2, 2005 | Post #10328 | Topic #10328

hello everyone, just wondering if anyone knows much about live video streaming... got an art installation in a couple of weeks and we want to set up a live video stream (as real-time as possible) that lots of people can view simultaneously..(well.. quite a few people, we're talking 10's rather than 100's i think) .. we haven't got the money to get a real producer license or anything of that scale.. I figured someone round here might know something.. suggestions/advice are best off list ... cheers duncan [View]



Re: what is vlogging

By duncan speakman | duncan speakman <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 2, 2005 | Post #10357 | Topic #10357

my two pence (or cents) it feels weird to mention a length as part of the definition.... do we define a photograph by how large it is? wikipedia says a feature film is one over 60min in length.. so should we break vlogs up into different categories? e.g. under 1 min, over 10 min? i'm not sure it's reached a point where we can us time as a definition so easily.. i mean has anyone actually recorded the length of every vlog out there and taken an average? on this note i was wondering about ryanne's categories "here i am, this is me" "work" "what are we doing?" "our kids" "welcome to the future" there doesn't seem to be one that just covers everyday life captured by the vlogger that's not of themselves (admitting the fact that this is my area of interest so i'm biased!!) > to some, a videoblog is the actual video and to others, > especially geeks, it is about all the moving parts and the big picture. > somewhere in between may lie some pure logic i like this definition.. but maybe without the words 'especially geeks', that feels a bit mean!! -- duncan speakman http://29fragiledays.blogspot.com [View]



vlog workshop uk!

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 15, 2005 | Post #11264 | Topic #11264

Hi hi!, i thought i'd let you know that i just ran a workshop on making vlogs to a media festival in somerset, uk. there's a bit of film on my blog.. hopefully the outcomes will be good.. everyone seemed quite excited and a few will definitely explore further (including Paul Watson, who some of you may know.. he's an amazing documentary maker, sometimes described as the father of reality television.. although he says 'who would want to be credited with that bastard child?' ) well...haven't had much time to follow the list recently so apologiies if i haven't been engaging much.. i'll try and read back the last 3 million messages tonight be well duncan -- 29fragiledays.blogspot.com [View]



Re: Rocketboom's Finest Hour

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 17, 2005 | Post #11461 | Topic #11430

i hate to be a party pooper here but what makes this rocketbooms finest hour? maybe it's different in the US but after watching the news over here it was just like watching it again but without as much research? don;t get me wrong.. i like rocketboom and i think they've made some brilliant shows but today it just seemed like a simpified television news... not a breakthrough in media/reporting or vlogs.. d [View]



Re: Rocketboom's Finest Hour

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 17, 2005 | Post #11467 | Topic #11430

> Also, living in the UK you have the great privilege to enjoy a free broadcast press. We in > the US no longer enjoy this privilege. well.. you may not enjoy the priviledge on your television.. but surely your access to british news websites and streamed news reports isn't censored? d [View]



Re: Rocketboom's Finest Hour

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 17, 2005 | Post #11471 | Topic #11430

. > > To my eye its still restrictive, just in a different way to the US. yes.. this is true.. but was rocketboom today so much more insightful? > Also there is nothing as cutting and satirical as the Daily Show on UK i certainly didn't find anything so cutting in there? d [View]



Re: Rocketboom's Finest Hour

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 17, 2005 | Post #11476 | Topic #11430

> I would never claim to be "insightful" the piece on the 'safety store' was definitely insightful... a real person in a real location exploring the symptoms of a much larger issue .. there have been many rb shows that were insightful.. and in some brilliant moments it's combined with tongue firmly in cheek that makes it all the more powerful. >but I don't know of any news > station that would refer to the war in Iraq as "the offensive > invasion" as we did on RB today. i'm not sure exactly what this says though.... > > I think what people are reponding to here is our willingness to tell > the news as we see it. Speaking truthfully, and from the heart, is not > something one can easily find on television. true.. and it is something to be saluted. (no military pun intended) my problem with the response is that you mention 'real issues' (man ;) ) and everyone goes 'wow this is powerful stuff'. Although it came from the heart it appeared like standard broadcast news (i.e. more impersonal) .... d (keep booming though..i become devils advocate far too easily .. ;) [View]



Re: Army videoblogger

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 24, 2005 | Post #11975 | Topic #11954

> go, comment. i watched, i choked, i commented! [View]



list is heavy vs. gmail paranoia

By kleindesign | "kleindesign" <duncan@...> | kleindesign
May 24, 2005 | Post #11979 | Topic #11979

i'm not usually one to help spread conspiracy theories or paranoia but has anyone seen these thoughts floating around the web? http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ [View]