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By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
June 15, 2004 | Post #15 | Topic #15

Hi Jay. Hi Adrian. Hello everyone else. I'll be poking around and jumping into the middle of things. Based on what Peter and Jay, Adrian, and Yaron have been doing/talking about, I see three types of tools/technologies for videoblogging emerging: 1. Those that extend the functionality of the web (and existing web- based software/systems/formats/standards/formats) to make it easier (more natural) to link to, reference, and share already digitized/encoded/hosted video. 2. Those that augment (or replace) existing desktop production tools to expedite the camera to videoblog process. 3. Those that make video distribution cheaper and easier, and provide videobloggers with control over quality and perhaps even audience. In addition, there is an exploration going on into the language of videoblogging, of which Adrian has written and explored for quite some time. Adrian's use of vogs for personal expression demonstrates a significant path for the medium. We can look at the shape of blogs to see where this path can lead (i.e., group blogs, topic blogs, link blogs (reblogs), cross blog conversations, blog search, blog aggregators, etc...) Also, we can look at the evolution of film as an expressive medium to see potential directions (i.e., cinema verite, mockumentary, genre films, pseudo-reality, etc...). Perhaps we might say that the language of videoblogs is anything we want, with the provision that the videoblog must communicate or enable communication (conversation). The problem I have with videoblogging (a problem I'm intent on solving) is that it... [View]



Re: New here

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
August 9, 2004 | Post #630 | Topic #604

iSight and video communication is becoming quite popular among the deaf community. Every computer at the computer lab at Gaulladet Univerisity has a webcam. Phone booths are similarly equipped if one wants to make a video relay call (you sign, interpreter speaks to whom you called, and interprets back into sign for you). Several deaf people I know here in NY have recently bought cams and are chatting whenever they're on the computer with them. This kind of one-to-one communication doesn't need more than a camera and broadband, and there's no immediate need to save conversations. So storage isn't really an issue. But if you look at how popular sidekicks and blackberrys are in the deaf community (particularly youth), you can imagine how quickly video conferencing will spread. So I imagine if there was something fun and social to do with video, it might extend beyond one-to-one conversation. But it's interesting to imagine what deaf blogging would look like. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@m...> wrote: > > > Why do written languages make it inaccessible? Am I missing > >something? > > > >Good question, and one that is asked by most people out there. > > > >Answer is threefold: > > <snip> > > >Anyone who has experience of using different languages should have > >an inkling of what I'm talking about. > > Very interesting. Thanks for explaining it to me/us. > > > >... [View]



Re: New here

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
August 10, 2004 | Post #650 | Topic #604

Looked good Ben (focus, framing, etc.). Keep posting. I'll send your links to friends in the deaf community. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BJ Fletcher <enlightenedtux@y...> wrote: > Evenin', > > Yet another signing Brit here... > > On 9 Aug 2004, at 21:37, Eli Chapman wrote: > > > iSight and video communication is becoming quite popular among the > > deaf community. > > I'm not surprised, Eli. I've used iSight and iChat with people from > New York and as far as Australia, and the quality has always been > excellent - with it, I feel a lot freer as I don't have to sign as slow > as I did with Windows. > > > Every computer at the computer lab at Gaulladet > > Univerisity has a webcam. Phone booths are similarly equipped if one > > wants to make a video relay call (you sign, interpreter speaks to > > whom you called, and interprets back into sign for you). > > There's so much potential, indeed! > > > Several deaf > > people I know here in NY have recently bought cams and are chatting > > whenever they're on the computer with them. > > Care to start a new egroup for signing iSight/iChat users to form a > community? > > If anyone cares, here's my test videoblog: > > http://benfletcher.net/videoblog.php > > Ben (sorry I haven't introduced myself - am awful... [View]



Re: New here

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
August 10, 2004 | Post #651 | Topic #604

Ben, one hearing friend watched and understood, a deaf friend didn't. She said you're speaking in different language (she speaks ASL, I guess you speak British SL). amazing. Everyone's lol. -eli --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, BJ Fletcher <enlightenedtux@y...> wrote: > Evenin', > > Yet another signing Brit here... > > On 9 Aug 2004, at 21:37, Eli Chapman wrote: > > > iSight and video communication is becoming quite popular among the > > deaf community. > > I'm not surprised, Eli. I've used iSight and iChat with people from > New York and as far as Australia, and the quality has always been > excellent - with it, I feel a lot freer as I don't have to sign as slow > as I did with Windows. > > > Every computer at the computer lab at Gaulladet > > Univerisity has a webcam. Phone booths are similarly equipped if one > > wants to make a video relay call (you sign, interpreter speaks to > > whom you called, and interprets back into sign for you). > > There's so much potential, indeed! > > > Several deaf > > people I know here in NY have recently bought cams and are chatting > > whenever they're on the computer with them. > > Care to start a new egroup for signing iSight/iChat users to form a > community? > > If anyone cares, here's my test videoblog: >... [View]



Re: The INternet of Video

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
September 16, 2004 | Post #1191 | Topic #1159

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@r...> wrote: > As Christopher says, a few minutes online would find this group, and numerous other commentators (Eli Chapman for example) that have been discussing this for at least 2 years. >>>>>>>>> The funny thing is that I accidentally started this discussion with an unmediated post that was del.icio.us'd by Ryan Shaw, reblogged by Kenyatta Cheese back onto Unmediated, and then posted here (I think by Steve). I posted it for a few different reasons: --I like Rafat Ali's PaidContent.org and his new idea (ContentNext) for bringing in thinkers and CEOs from the digital media industry, and I wanted unmediated readers to check it out. --The post's author, Jeremy Allaire, is a pretty prolific and interesting guy (former CTO of Macromedia and avid blogger, Google him for info) --And I'm a big fan of raising the investment community's awareness and interest in the potential breakthoughs we're heading towards in the field of video production tools, technology, and services. Greater attention increases the chance of raising money and is only going to help those of us who want to build solutions to the problems we're all experiencing, talking and thinking about. Anything that contributes towards defining direction and strategy for manifesting the future of media, communication, and entertainment is going to get my thumbs up- regardless if it's from peers on the web, research labs and universities, community experiments, startups, or corporations. And make that... [View]



Today 2PM EST: live interactive webcast with the Unmediated crew

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
September 20, 2004 | Post #1239 | Topic #1239

If anyone's online at 2PM EST today, a few of us from unmediated.org will be webcasting live from NYC and available to chat about decentralized media, video blogging, new tools and processes, and such. We're using Shawn Van Every's Interactive Tele-Journalism system, the same system we used for the Konscious.TV show during the RNC. Access the show at http://www.walking-productions.com/weeklyshow More info at http://www.unmediated.org/archives/001626.html [View]



Unmediated's The Weekly Show live today at 2PM EDT (in one hour!)

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
September 27, 2004 | Post #1295 | Topic #1295

We're still working on kinks in the system and in the structure of the show, but please join us at 2PM EDT today to chat about video blogging and what The Weekly Show should be for those of us who are interested in shaping the future of peer-to-peer media, entertainment, and communication. Tune in live at 2PM EDT here: http://www.walking- productions.com/weeklyshow More info here: http://www.unmediated.org/archives/001720.html If you can't make it, leave comments on the unmediated post listed above, or send email to contribute@... subject: The Weekly Show, or we can just talk about it here. And thanks to those who tuned in last week! [View]



Re: Vloggercon 2005

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
December 29, 2004 | Post #2905 | Topic #2843

Jay, I'll be there. If there's any room, I'd like to lead a discussion called Smart Mob Media Production, exploring the realities of decentralized collaborative storytelling, newsgathering, and dissemination. If anyone's interested in helping lead the discussion, contact me offlist at eli (at) chapmanlogic dot com. I'll also have some software and hardware goodies to giveaway. -Eli --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman <jay.dedman@g...> wrote: > Hey guys-- > > what started as an offhanded comment by Shannon is now a reality. > Vloggercon 2005. > > Shannon from LA is coming to NYC the 3rd week of january to do some work. > so we said we'll have Vloggercon 2005 on saturday, January 22nd. > whoever wants to come is now officially invited. > > Andrew Barron of Rocketboom teaches at Parsons School of Design in > Manhattan...and says we can get a room with a projector and wi-fi for > the day. > I imagined we'd organize some discussion sessions from 10am-4pm. > Then, just eat and party the rest of the evening. > > what i need to know is...who interested in coming? > we can find you a free place to stay no problem. > > Also, we need some discussion leaders. > I imagine hour long sessions where we talk about the work we've been > doing this year...showing videos...and figuring out what we can do > next. > If you have an idea you want... [View]



Re: videoblogging and money

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
December 30, 2004 | Post #2974 | Topic #2964

If videoblogging's like talking on the telephone, then think about all the jobs there are teaching the new language of communication to citizens. You don't just pick up the phone and talk. So you're right about not getting paid to talk on the phone, but you're wrong on videoblogging and money. A different view... Think two types of videoblogging- one where the goal is the videoblog, and another one where one of the byproducts of what I'm doing (or we're doing) is videoblogging. In the byproduct one, you don't get paid to videoblog, as much as videoblogging and blogging and moblogging and recording and capturing and sharing what you do helps you earn money doing what you love. Jay, imagine it's Mozart's day with the symphony orchestra and music was an elite specialized skill. Imagine you and your friends were into 'personal musical instruments' and 'personal music.' Yeah, lots of financial opportunity right? Lots of public forums for you and your community to express themselves, right? But open the Village Voice and check out all the band listings, clubs, reviews, and music-related classifieds. Look how music is part of elementary school education. Videoblogging is part of new world where communication using moving pictures and sounds is easy and fun. And I believe it will come to fruition mostly because there will be money for those of us that want to participate full time and/or help others learn how to express... [View]



Re: vloggercon location update

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
January 7, 2005 | Post #3619 | Topic #3501

That sounds great Andrew! I probably missed this, and I think I'm confusing two different NY design schools here, but can you (or someone) confirm that vloggercon is in Manhattan? For some reason I'm thinking it's in Brooklyn. I know you're working on a room number, but does someone have an address yet? Is 5th Ave near Union Sq. correct? Thanks! -eli [View]



Re: Where do we eat for the Con?

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
January 11, 2005 | Post #3904 | Topic #3892

I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but how about we take over the back/covered patio of d.b.a (http://www.drinkgoodstuff.com/). and get Lil' Frankies delivery! They walk over the pizzas and treats. We should have no problem claiming the space at d.b.a. so long as a few people get there asap after the event and sprawl themselves over as many tables as possible. Plus, d.b.a.'s got the menu book. And there are Vietnamese sandwiches (http://tinyurl.com/4ffta) one block away! God i miss the neighborhood! -Eli --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman <jay.dedman@g...> wrote: > I need help from the NYC videobloggers. > we have not chosen a place to eat and party after the Con, Jan 22. > > we need a backroom that'll hold 40-50 people. > Lower east Side preferably (near Parson's) but not a requirement. > casual...with food and drinks. > everyone orders their own thing. > no loud music. > what we really need is the dedicated space for 4-5 hours and we can > guarantee a big payoff. > > so can anyone in NYC recommend a place i can approach? > a place you like. > a place you know. > any help is appreciated. > > this must be set up this week. > > Jay.dedman@g... [View]



Re: Garage Cinema Research

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
February 2, 2005 | Post #5245 | Topic #5180

I'm in tripp's camp here. Most of the time editing is the process of getting rid of stuff. It's not about creating something. It's about letting free the story, or the information, or even the time (as Andrei Tarkovsky says) that was captured by the camera. If cameras were better, we wouldn't need to edit so much. When I would edit for other people, and I found myself needing to make something out of nothing in the editing room- having to force a moment that didn't exist, trying to fake an emotional change- it almost always meant that the filmmaker just didn't do a good job getting what they needed when they had the chance. That said, editing, or something like it, becomes interesting in a world where we can use video and the web to express ourselves without owning a camera, or where what we shot becomes most meaningful because of the context of our blogs and postings and network, or because we're producing interactive non-linear vogs that take advantage of the network. And it's too early to name anything other than the projects we do and the groups we form. This is a new medium. In 400 years, maybe someone will lookback and see what we do today as a branch of cinema. Maybe it will be its own thing. Either way, moving pictures are only 100 years old. Compare that to music or painting. One century versus... [View]



Re: Garage Cinema Research

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
February 3, 2005 | Post #5247 | Topic #5180

I just want to clarify what I meant when I wrote 'the filmmaker didn't do a good job getting what they needed when they had the chance.' And what I meant when I said that editing's not about creating something. That just sounds dumb. I'm talking about me. For me, editing is... For me, telling the stories I want to tell with video is hard. Cameras are these dumb recording devices that don't really help out at all. They fix things like lighting and focus and such, but they don't tell you that you forgot to say what you really meant, or you forgot to ask that question you were thinking about a minute ago. Sometimes you get the perfect moment. Sometimes you don't. Often times you think you got something that when you watch it later it's not there. And often you're suprised something's there you didn't intend. I've ruined my own films by not shooting what I needed. I shot this improvised movie over a long weekend with a group of friends, some actors and some non-actors. We shot with two cameras. There were 30 hours of footage. And I waited a year to edit it because it was 1997 and editing wasn't free yet :) When I finally edited the film (called Space Cat), the whole time, I was kicking myself because I didn't have what I needed. All the good stuff I had got I couldn't... [View]



unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
February 28, 2005 | Post #6825 | Topic #6825

Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how psyched we were for the oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive based cameras and are able to regularly post video with ease into mefeedia, vimeo, medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc... So while we both work on getting cases of cameras from Sanyo, JVC, et al., we thought it made sense to create a list of digital still cameras that shoot decent MPEG video clips. Some of these cameras are cheap and can be bought used on craigslist and on ebay, so we thought we'd compile the data and make a semi-official list of Unmediated Approved (or something more snarky please) digital still cameras that shoot video clips. If you know of a camera that fits this description, please reply here with as much of the following information you can provide: -Brand -Model Number -Tell us about the movies it lets you shoot, how long, sound, file format -How's the battery life on the camera when you shoot movies? NOTE: We are NOT looking for are recommendations on cheap tape-based camcorders. We are NOT looking for recommendations on camera phones that shoot video. We ARE looking for recommendations on digital still cameras that shoot video clips. Thanks, -eli, kenyatta, and the unmediated crew P.S. If Sanyo or JVC or other camera vendors are here and want to chat, please contact me at eli AT chapmanlogic dot com. [View]



Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
February 28, 2005 | Post #6826 | Topic #6825

Here are two still cameras I've used: > -Brand... OLYMPUS > -Model Number... CAMEDIA C-5000 ZOOM > -Tell us about the movies it lets you shoot, how long, sound, file > format... GREAT FOR REALLY SHORT VIDEOS, LIKE 20 SECONDS. RECORDS IN SOME MPEG FORMAT THAT I'VE HAD NO TROUBLE WITH. > -How's the battery life on the camera when you shoot movies? SEEMS FINE TO ME. > -Brand... SONY > -Model Number... DSC F-707 > -Tell us about the movies it lets you shoot, how long, sound, file > format... HAS SETTINGS FOR HIGH-RESOLUTION MOVIE (320X240), MEDIUM (320X240), OR LOW (160X120). GOOD CAMERA FOR BOOTLEGGING CONCERTS BY SHOOTING LOW RES MOVIES WITH LENS CAP ON AND RECORDING ONLY THE SOUND. ALSO GOOD FOR SHORT VIDEO CLIPS WITH AUDIO. BUT FILE SIZES ARE REALLY LARGE FOR WHAT YOU ACTUALLY GET. RECORDS INTO MPEG-1. > -How's the battery life on the camera when you shoot movies? VERY GOOD. [View]



Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
February 28, 2005 | Post #6854 | Topic #6825

ryanne hodson wrote: > this gives me an idea... > maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but still good, usable > cams, dig and analog > to donate to people who want to start vlogging. > esp people in places far away and those who can't afford new ones > > what say you? I say hoo-freaking-yay! We need: 1. The list of recommended cameras 2. The pool of donated cameras and a system for sharing them 3. An aggregated pool for $$$ donations for those that want to sponsor a videoblogger and help us buy used recommended cameras and share them Anything else? -eli [View]



Re: Most popular portable video device?

By Eli Chapman | "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...> | opensourcefood
March 2, 2005 | Post #7035 | Topic #7007

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@g...> wrote: > cant say this is most popular, but this is the coolest one I have seen- http://archos.com/products/overview/pma_400.html (pant pant) Ummmmm, note the SDK page with the ole' *coming soon* http://archos.com/products/overview/pma_400_sdk.html -e. [View]