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introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #110 | Topic #110

Hello, videoblogging world. I am the developer of a web application for music playlists at webjay.org. By accident this turns out to be a good platform for videoblogging, so there is a groundswell of videoblogging among the users. The lucky accident is that the SMIL editor and infrastructure for swapping links work almost as well for video as it does for music. A couple sample videologs: http://webjay.org/by/webjaybs/newsvideo-daily http://webjay.org/by/pomona4/violenceiniraqandsaudiarabia Because the Webjay playlist editor wasn't designed with video in mind, it has a lot of flaws in that regard. If there is anything I can do to support the videoblogging community with technology, please don't hesitate to ask. The bugs are getting fixed and the features are being added, and eventually I think it'll be a fine tool. - Lucas Gonze [View]



RE: [videoblogging] introduction

By Philippe Antoine | "Philippe Antoine" <pantoine@...> |
June 25, 2004 | Post #111 | Topic #110

Hello Everybody, OK, this is my first post so I present myself: I am a fre= nch guy working in Dominican Republic. I have made with a friend some web v= ideos, and I will start a vlog when I will come back in France (in 2 month)= . I am trying for some time now to have a regular flow of video production= , and with a firend, I think we can handle to create a video at least every= week. For the technic, Lucas Gonze, you made a great job ! This is exactl= y what I was expecting. Do you think you can explain to us how you develop = that ? Philippe http://www.unpeuplus.net -----Original Message----- From: Lucas= Gonze [mailto:lgonze@...] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:05 PM To: = videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] introduction Hello,= videoblogging world. I am the developer of a web application for music pl= aylists at webjay.org. By accident this turns out to be a good platform for= videoblogging, so there is a groundswell of videoblogging among the users.= The lucky accident is that the SMIL editor and infrastructure for swappin= g links work almost as well for video as it does for music. A couple sampl= e videologs: http://webjay.org/by/webjaybs/newsvideo-daily http://webjay.or= g/by/pomona4/violenceiniraqandsaudiarabia Because the Webjay playlist edit= or wasn't designed with video in mind, it has a lot of flaws in that regard= . If there is anything I can do to support the... [View]



RE: [videoblogging] introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #112 | Topic #110

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Philippe Antoine wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > OK, = this is my first post so I present myself: I am a french guy working > in D= ominican Republic. I have made with a friend some web videos, and I > will = start a vlog when I will come back in France (in 2 month). Hello Philippe,= I am a belgian-american from New York living in Montreal for the summer. = > I am trying for some time now to have a regular flow of video > producti= on, and with a firend, I think we can handle to create a video > at least e= very week. A very interesting thing about what you're doing is that it's s= o complementary to what others are doing. The P2P hackers are decentralizi= ng distribution. The musiclogging community that I am a part of is decentr= alizing taste. The videoblogging community is decentralizing production. = It's great to see this last leg come into being with the work that you and = other videobloggers are doing. > > For the technic, Lucas Gonze, you made = a great job ! This is exactly > what I was expecting. Do you think you can = explain to us how you develop > that ? Sweat. :) I have been working on = playlist-related tech for over a year now. My interest began with the ques=... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] introduction

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 25, 2004 | Post #113 | Topic #110

> Because the Webjay playlist editor wasn't designed with video in mind, it > has a lot of flaws in that regard. If there is anything I can do to > support the videoblogging community with technology, please don't hesitate > to ask. The bugs are getting fixed and the features are being added, and > eventually I think it'll be a fine tool. Lucas-- very cool if it works... Can you briefly explain to us how we could use this to edit video? does it post straight to a blog? Optimize? have you tried to do video with this application? jay -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: introduction

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 25, 2004 | Post #114 | Topic #110

> Can you briefly explain to us how we could use this to edit video? > does it post straight to a blog? > Optimize? > have you tried to do video with this application? I think I can answer some of those questions. Jay, that application lets you easily create playlists of video already on the web. So you pick from the news videos and other video available on the web, and create a playlist. The application doesn't let you edit video (in the classic sense) or optimize video or upload video. (Did I get that correct?) Peter [View]



Re: [videoblogging] introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #115 | Topic #110

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Jay Dedman wrote: > very cool if it works... That's the trick. :) > have you tried to do video with this application? Yes. There are several people doing video on a daily basis with it. My nightly news show, after work, is a news playlist, and it works well enough. The flaws are usually annoying rather than fatal. > Can you briefly explain to us how we could use this to edit video? Browse webjay a bit to get a feel for the ideas. Create a webjay account. Hit the "create" tab and then the "create playlist" button. Fill in the song field with the URL of a video. If you want to add more than one video, hit the "add song" button and fill in the video URL in the song field. When you're done, play the playlist in Real (for SMIL) or Windows Media Player (for ASX), depending on whether your clips are Real or WMV. If your clips are mpegs, you can also view them in Winamp or VLC (M3U). This more advanced functionality only works in Real/SMIL for now: you can have two separate but parallel "tracks" with video, audio, or a GIF. To do that you need to know a hidden feature -- in SMIL it doesn't matter whether you call something audio, video or img; Real will figure out what to do on its own. How to do... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #116 | Topic #110

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, petertheman wrote: > I think I can answer some of those questions. Jay, that application > lets you easily create playlists of video already on the web. So you > pick from the news videos and other video available on the web, and > create a playlist. The application doesn't let you edit video (in the > classic sense) or optimize video or upload video. > > (Did I get that correct?) Yup. The application is useful for assembling collections of media on the web. It allows you to put several videos together or to layer audio+video+images in a client-side remix. Client-side remixing is a crude but surprisingly powerful way of doing things. [View]



Re: introduction

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 25, 2004 | Post #117 | Topic #110

My videoblog entry today is about me trying out viewing webJay with video. http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/003050.html Peter [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #119 | Topic #110

Wow. This videoblogging thing you guys are doing is mindblowing when I see it in action. Fantastic. On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, petertheman wrote: > My videoblog entry today is about me trying out viewing webJay with > video. > > http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/003050.html > > Peter > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 25, 2004 | Post #120 | Topic #110

> Wow. This videoblogging thing you guys are doing is > mindblowing when I see it in action. I guess you liked it :) Can you explain what you liked about it? It's really a fairly stupid entry, in and by itself... I want to find out what the strenghts of videoblogging are... Peter [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #122 | Topic #110

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, PeterV wrote: > > > > Wow. This videoblogging thing you guys are doing is > > mindblowing when I see it in action. > > I guess you liked it :) Can you explain what you liked about it? It's > really a fairly stupid entry, in and by itself... I want to find out > what the strenghts of videoblogging are... The thing that killed me is seeing video, which is almost always reserved for a priesthood, get cranked out in such a trivial way. The medium just isn't that fluid usually. - Lucas > > Peter > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 25, 2004 | Post #121 | Topic #110

It'd be cool to have a webjay page collecting all the video's we have posted this week. (pretty much all of them seem to be Quicktime). I was thinking of handcoding a SMIL containing all of them, but if webJay can do it, even better! Maybe someone can set that up? P [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 25, 2004 | Post #123 | Topic #110

> The application is useful for assembling collections of media on the web. > It allows you to put several videos together or to layer > audio+video+images in a client-side remix. Client-side remixing is a > crude but surprisingly powerful way of doing things. Peter, is this what you were talking about when you wanted to play all the Videoblog week videos back to back. something to with SMIL. can we do this? like a TV channel? This application just plays all the videos seamlessly from different servers? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: introduction

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <videoblog@...> | andreashaugstrup
June 25, 2004 | Post #124 | Topic #110

> It'd be cool to have a webjay page collecting all the video's we have > posted this week. (pretty much all of them seem to be Quicktime). I was > thinking of handcoding a SMIL containing all of them, but if webJay can > do it, even better! Maybe someone can set that up? I will do some kind of page with all the videos from the week Monday before you guys wake up. Both for my own site and my own personal pleasure and for the wiki. I don't mind doing a SMIL also - not that I've figured out how to handcode such a thing yet. If I can use that webjay thing that would rock - it's been bookmarked. :o) You were wondering about the strength of videoblogging. As I pointed out on my blog yesterday I strongly believe that the strength of videoblogging lies in the ability to create narratives - something that audio-visual media is exceptional at. I also posted the music video on my blog at <http://www.solitude. dk/archives/2004_06.php#t20040623-11:00> At 121 megabyte I think it's the largest videoblog entry yet. :o) If you can call three months work a videoblog entry. Check it out though. The music is good even though the band were too much in their rock star mind to put in a decent day's work. I have my article on videoblog genres coming up really soon now. I was going to... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #125 | Topic #110

Lest anyone think webjay is ready for prime time, I have to warn you that I think QT media may not be supported. I'll have to check it out. The trick is that QuickTime itself is the only player that supports QT embedded in a playlist, and there's no way to flag a SMIL playlist so that QT grabs it instead of Real. ...all of this tech is embryonic, there's a long way to go before it's smooth. On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: > > It'd be cool to have a webjay page collecting all the video's we > have > > posted this week. (pretty much all of them seem to be Quicktime). I > was > > thinking of handcoding a SMIL containing all of them, but if webJay > can > > do it, even better! Maybe someone can set that up? > > I will do some kind of page with all the videos from the week Monday > before you guys wake up. Both for my own site and my own personal > pleasure and for the wiki. I don't mind doing a SMIL also - not that > I've figured out how to handcode such a thing yet. If I can use that > webjay thing that would rock - it's been bookmarked. :o) > > You were wondering about the strength of videoblogging. As I pointed > out on my... [View]



what we're trying to do….

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 25, 2004 | Post #126 | Topic #110

I think that its the overall "thing" we've created here. all of us, different styles and personalties, all make little videos and putting them online. no one else is doing this that I know of. everyone's videos make me laugh. I get to know people much better than in their text blog. and hopefully, we can figure out a way to make it all easier. easier tools. more storage. more bandwidth. this video phone concept is exciting me. but it seems the US cellphones are way behind europe and Japan. imagine if we could take videos, edit them in the phone, and post them to our blogs. you could do this on your trip in India. let's figure out a way to do this. Maybe MAPAJ(our French friend) can advise us... Quoting PeterV <peter@...>: > > > > Wow. This videoblogging thing you guys are doing is > > mindblowing when I see it in action. > > I guess you liked it :) Can you explain what you liked about it? It's > really a fairly stupid entry, in and by itself... I want to find out > what the strenghts of videoblogging are... > > Peter > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: [videoblogging] what we're trying to do….

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
June 25, 2004 | Post #127 | Topic #110

Or cameras? I just shot a few videos with my Canon S400. It takes avi movies. I'm editing it just a bit for tomorrow's post. Amazingly clear images! What if you could just push a button on the camera and have it posted to the web? --Steve On Jun 25, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Jay Dedman wrote: > I think that its the overall "thing" we've created here. > all of us, different styles and personalties, all make little videos > and > putting them online. > no one else is doing this that I know of. > everyone's videos make me laugh. I get to know people much better than > in > their text blog. > and hopefully, we can figure out a way to make it all easier. > easier tools. more storage. more bandwidth. > > this video phone concept is exciting me. > but it seems the US cellphones are way behind europe and Japan. > imagine if we could take videos, edit them in the phone, and post them > to our > blogs. > you could do this on your trip in India. > let's figure out a way to do this. > Maybe MAPAJ(our French friend) can advise us... > > > > Quoting PeterV <peter@...>: > >> >> >>> Wow. This videoblogging thing you guys are doing is >>> mindblowing when I see it in action. >> >> I guess you... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] what we're trying to do….

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 25, 2004 | Post #128 | Topic #110

> What if you could just push a button on the camera and have it posted > to the web? so you'd put the phone(ability to connect to the internet) in the camera... instead of the camera in the phone... who do we need to convince that this is a good idea? I think our continuing developing of the process AND creating examples of work is the key... people can SEE how cool it is... -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 25, 2004 | Post #130 | Topic #110

> The trick is that QuickTime itself is the only player that > supports QT embedded in a playlist, and there's no way to > flag a SMIL playlist so that QT grabs it instead of Real. But there is a way to save a SMIL file as a .mov quicktime movie. Just add a small code before the first SMIL tag (it's in the quicktime docs). I'm no SMIL expert either by the way... Peter [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: introduction

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
June 25, 2004 | Post #131 | Topic #110

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, PeterV wrote: > > > > The trick is that QuickTime itself is the only player that > > supports QT embedded in a playlist, and there's no way to > > flag a SMIL playlist so that QT grabs it instead of Real. > > But there is a way to save a SMIL file as a .mov quicktime movie. Just > add a small code before the first SMIL tag (it's in the quicktime docs). > I'm no SMIL expert either by the way... That's an intensely useful hack. Thanks! - Lucas > > Peter > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [View]