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INdTV

By Joshua Kinberg | Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@...> | joshkinberg
September 28, 2004 | Post #1299 | Topic #1299

I'm sure some of you are aware of what's happening here: http://www.indtv.tv/ This is the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is trying to bring Videoblogging to the masses, and also put some of that content on TV. What do you all think of this effort and what they're doing? How do you think their work could be informed by what is sort of more organically occurring here? What can we work learn from their approach? --Josh ---------------------------- Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@... (201) 328-4547 --------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
September 29, 2004 | Post #1300 | Topic #1299

Why do you say they are trying to bring videoblogging to the masses? On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: > I'm sure some of you are aware of what's happening here: > http://www.indtv.tv/ > > This is the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is > trying to bring Videoblogging to the masses, and also put some of that > content on TV. What do you all think of this effort and what they're > doing? How do you think their work could be informed by what is sort > of more organically occurring here? What can we work learn from their > approach? > > --Josh > > ---------------------------- > Joshua Kinberg > jkinberg@... > (201) 328-4547 > --------------------------- > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Web Sites ] --------- Steve Garfield Video Production http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ Weblog: Off On A Tangent http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
September 29, 2004 | Post #1301 | Topic #1299

Oh, I see now. You must have read boing boing and Dan Gilmor. http://www.boingboing.net/2004/09/28/al_gores_new_cable_n.html http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/ 010833.shtml#010833 On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: > I'm sure some of you are aware of what's happening here: > http://www.indtv.tv/ > > This is the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is > trying to bring Videoblogging to the masses, and also put some of that > content on TV. What do you all think of this effort and what they're > doing? How do you think their work could be informed by what is sort > of more organically occurring here? What can we work learn from their > approach? > > --Josh > > ---------------------------- > Joshua Kinberg > jkinberg@... > (201) 328-4547 > --------------------------- > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Web Sites ] --------- Steve Garfield Video Production http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ Weblog: Off On A Tangent http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Joshua Kinberg | Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@...> | joshkinberg
September 29, 2004 | Post #1302 | Topic #1299

------=_Part_2468_8986789.1096431365762 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. Take a look at this: http://www.indtv.tv/vlog/vlog.html This is their "Recruiting Vlog." Their DC's, or "Digital Correspondents," will be creating content and uploading it in this format or something similar. Obviously its something that's in an early stage. --Josh On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 00:05AM, Steve Garfield <steve@...> wrote: > ><<Original Attached>> ---------------------------- Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@... (201) 328-4547 --------------------------- ------=_Part_2468_8986789.1096431365762 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><body> <tt> Why do you say they are trying to bring videoblogging to the masses?<BR> <BR> On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:<BR> <BR> > I'm sure some of you are aware of what's happening here:<BR> > <a href="http://www.indtv.tv/">http://www.indtv.tv/</a><BR&gt; ><BR> > This is the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is <BR> > trying to bring Videoblogging to the masses, and also put some of that <BR> > content on TV. What do you all think of this effort and what they're <BR> > doing? How do you think their work could be informed by what is sort <BR> > of more organically occurring here? What can we work learn from their <BR> > approach?<BR> ><BR> > --Josh<BR> ><BR> > ----------------------------<BR> > Joshua Kinberg<BR> > jkinberg@...<BR> > (201) 328-4547<BR> > ---------------------------<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> > Yahoo! Groups Links<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ---------  [ Web Sites ]  ---------<BR> Steve Garfield Video Production<BR> <a href="http://stevegarfield.com">http://stevegarfield.com</a><BR&gt;... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1303 | Topic #1299

--B_3179251071_90869 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I downloaded the application. I read the application. My response to ever= y line was: =B3I see dead people=B2 .s On 9/28/04 9:13 PM, "Steve Gar= field" <steve@...> wrote: > Oh, I see now. You must have re= ad boing boing and Dan Gilmor. > > http://www.boingboing.net/2004/09/28/al= _gores_new_cable_n.html > > http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangill= mor/archives/ > 010833.shtml#010833 > > On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:56 PM, Josh= ua Kinberg wrote: > >> > I'm sure some of you are aware of what's happenin= g here: >> > http://www.indtv.tv/ >> > >> > This is the television network = owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is >> > trying to bring Videoblogging = to the masses, and also put some of that >> > content on TV. What do you al= l think of this effort and what they're >> > doing? How do you think their = work could be informed by what is sort >> > of more organically occurring h= ere? What can we work learn from their >> > approach? >> > >> > --Josh >> >= >> > ---------------------------- >> > Joshua Kinberg >> > jkinberg@...= m >> > (201) 328-4547 >> > --------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > = >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > --------- [ Web S= ites ] --------- > Steve Garfield... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1304 | Topic #1299

--B_3179251448_100758 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ok.... Now I=B9m looking at it more. I think my response was correct: = =B3I see dead people=B2. This is straight ahead, camp, commercial, garbage= . Hey. I=B9m out of a job right now. Maybe I=B9ll apply. .shannon On= 9/28/04 9:17 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote: > I downloaded the a= pplication. > > I read the application. > > My response to every line was= : > > =B3I see dead people=B2 > > > .s > > > > On 9/28/04 9:13 PM, "S= teve Garfield" <steve@...> wrote: > >> Oh, I see now. You m= ust have read boing boing and Dan Gilmor. >> >> http://www.boingboing.net/= 2004/09/28/al_gores_new_cable_n.html >> >> http://weblog.siliconvalley.com= /column/dangillmor/archives/ >> 010833.shtml#010833 >> >> On Sep 28, 2004,= at 11:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: >> >>> > I'm sure some of you are awar= e of what's happening here: >>> > http://www.indtv.tv/ >>> > >>> > This is = the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is >>> > trying= to bring Videoblogging to the masses, and also put some of that >>> > cont= ent on TV. What do you all think of this effort and what they're >>> > doin= g? How do you think their work could be informed by what is sort >>> > of m= ore organically occurring here? What can we work learn from their >>> > app= roach? >>>... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1305 | Topic #1299

--B_3179251684_116934 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 9/28/04 9:24 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote: >> > > How bad ca= n it get: This is NOT vlog > > > Don't beat around the bush if you don't = want to. Flip around the camera and > tell us directly why this is for you.= If you're shy, tell us you're shy and > then tell us anyway what's on your= mind. That's cool. > > =B3I see dead people=B2 > > > --This is Vlog: ht= tp://x.nnon.tv/ > > --B_3179251684_116934 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] INdTV</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT= FACE=3D"Verdana">On 9/28/04 9:24 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@nnon= .tv> wrote:<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><B= R> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><BR> How bad can it get: This= is NOT vlog<BR> <BR> <BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#32421F"><FONT SIZE=3D"5">Don't b= eat around the bush if you don't want to. Flip around the camera and tell u= s directly why this is for you. If you're shy, tell us you're shy and then = tell us anyway what's on your mind. That's cool.<BR> <BR> “I see dead= people”<BR> <BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> --This is Vlog: http://x.nnon.tv= / <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3179251684_116934-- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Joshua Kinberg | Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@...> | joshkinberg
September 29, 2004 | Post #1306 | Topic #1299

------=_Part_2470_11997236.1096432747460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess my criticism is that it seems to me that they are thinking about simply grafting existing models of TV onto this medium, kind of like the discussion about that "Internet of Video" quote from last week -- a new way to sell the same shit. What it doesn't seem like they're thinking about is empowering those who are already doing this, such as contributing to some of the things we're doing here, or other people from indymedia and elsewhere are doing. It also doesn't seem like they're addressing some of the technical concerns (yet, I hope) that would create an emerging conversational system -- things like syndication/aggregation, comment/trackbacks, metadata for searching, creative commons licesing, etc... It seems to me that they are just blogging with links to a good (actually not that good, but maybe its my conneection/browser) streaming server. --Josh On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 00:24AM, Shannon Noble <sn@...> wrote: > ><<Original Attached>> ---------------------------- Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@... (201) 328-4547 --------------------------- ------=_Part_2470_11997236.1096432747460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] INdTV</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE="Verdana">Ok....<BR> <BR> Now I’m looking at it more.<BR> <BR> I think my response was correct:<BR> <BR> “I see dead people”.<BR> <BR> This is straight ahead, camp, commercial, garbage. <BR> <BR> Hey. I’m out of a job right now. Maybe I’ll apply.<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> .shannon<BR> <BR> <BR> On 9/28/04 9:17 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote:<BR>... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Christopher Weagel | Christopher Weagel <humandog@...> | ronnalddd
September 29, 2004 | Post #1307 | Topic #1299

I saw this a few weeks ago. The website and the sample video they had were pretty putrid. The video shows a "young person" video taping other "young people" spouting the usual alternative media slogans. They don't show you the footage the guy is shooting, from his camera, they show him shooting with a small camera from a 3rd person perspective. It's idiotic. I also downloaded the application. They own whatever submission video you send them. (They want to see your personality, not what you'd make) As I would imagine they would own any video you make for them. That's what really pisses me off. Of course, like Shannon, I too need a job. Chris [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1308 | Topic #1299

--B_3179253251_173279 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Maybe then we could fabricate a virtual persona within the group that would apply for a position, something that would subjugate and then later vilify. We could create proxy shares and collect income. Pennies. .s On 9/28/04 9:46 PM, "Christopher Weagel" <humandog@...> wrote: > I saw this a few weeks ago. > > The website and the sample video they had were pretty putrid. The video > shows a "young person" video taping other "young people" spouting the > usual alternative media slogans. > > They don't show you the footage the guy is shooting, from his camera, > they show him shooting with a small camera from a 3rd person > perspective. It's idiotic. > > I also downloaded the application. They own whatever submission video > you send them. (They want to see your personality, not what you'd make) > As I would imagine they would own any video you make for them. That's > what really pisses me off. > > Of course, like Shannon, I too need a job. > > Chris > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129c86u2u/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=grou > ps/S=1705554021:HM/EXP=1096519591/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://companio > n.yahoo.com> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * > *... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
September 29, 2004 | Post #1309 | Topic #1299

>This is the television network owned by Al Gore and Joel Hyatt that is trying to bring Videoblogging to the masses, Al Gore invented Videoblogging. ;-) Seriously, though, this looks like it would be a great thing to add to the "cable lineup". I hope they are successful both artistically and commercially. There could be some cross-over with videoblogging. If they're really "cool and hip" maybe they'll put some of their content up with a CC license and we can revog and/or comment on it. -- Sean -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Sean Gilligan : 831-466-9788 x11 Catalla Systems, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
September 29, 2004 | Post #1310 | Topic #1299

>Maybe then we could fabricate a virtual persona within the group that would apply for a position, something that would subjugate and then later vilify. We could create proxy shares and collect income. Pennies. LOL. I wish I were a quarter as subversive as you, Shannon. -- Sean -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Sean Gilligan : 831-466-9788 x11 Catalla Systems, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
September 29, 2004 | Post #1311 | Topic #1299

>I saw this a few weeks ago. > >The website and the sample video they had were pretty putrid. It does look pretty lame, but then again, think about how hard it was for Al Gore to seem relaxed and casual when he was running for president. That's pretty much what's going on here. They're trying to hire some talent, they know they need it. The real test will be when they hire the talent what kind of creative freedom will they give them. As someone who is turning 40 next month, I'll have to admit I find the "young" stuff somewhat annoying. Can we replace "young" with "interesting" or something else? Anyway, I wish them the best. I hope they do find some hip, interesting, young (and hopefully some not so young) talent and really do something close to what they're trying to hype. I don't know how many of you have seen http://channel9.msdn.com , but when I first went to the site they had some MS marketing manager talking about how he "sleeps with his tablet PC" or some such. It was really nauseating. Since then, I have seen a few interesting interviews with some of their technical folks. It's always amusing when us "old" folks try to be hip and young, but end up being laughable. I think both Shannon and Chris should submit videos (hold our nose at the giving them the rights thing.) Ream 'em,... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1312 | Topic #1299

--B_3179255198_323654 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 9/28/04 10:18 PM, "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> wrote: > = > Shannon, you're too old to be a "young person", right? > > I=B9m going= to tell them I=B9m a 17 year old female. Then I=B9m going to tell them =B3= I see dead people=B2. --B_3179255198_323654 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] INdTV</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT= FACE=3D"Verdana">On 9/28/04 10:18 PM, "M. Sean Gilligan" <sea= nlist@...> wrote:<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdan= a"><BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"New York"><TT>Shannon, you're too old to be a = "young person", right?  <BR> <BR> <BR> </TT></FONT></BLOCKQU= OTE><FONT FACE=3D"New York"><TT>I’m going to tell them I’m a 17= year old female. Then I’m going to tell them “I see dead peopl= e”.<BR> </TT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTM= L> --B_3179255198_323654-- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Joshua Kinberg | Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@...> | joshkinberg
September 29, 2004 | Post #1313 | Topic #1299

------=_Part_2473_3324364.1096436994705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if it's fair to judge them strictly on content yet. Yes, their stuff is really gimmicky at this point, and I hope that will change once they get their footing. It will partly depend on the talent they recruit and how much control/constraints they exert on the content that those people produce. Regardless, I think there is room in this medium for all sorts -- independent and corporate. At this point, I'm more interested in the implementation. Are they doing something that makes videoblogging more accessible for media creators/consumers? Whether its in terms of tools for publishing, sharing, archiving, syndicating, searching, etc.. How does it foster this emerging community? --Josh On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 01:27AM, Shannon Noble <sn@...> wrote: > ><<Original Attached>> ---------------------------- Joshua Kinberg jkinberg@... (201) 328-4547 --------------------------- ------=_Part_2473_3324364.1096436994705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] INdTV</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE="Verdana">On 9/28/04 10:18 PM, "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> wrote:<BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana"><BR> </FONT><FONT FACE="New York"><TT>Shannon, you're too old to be a "young person", right?  <BR> <BR> <BR> </TT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="New York"><TT>I’m going to tell them I’m a 17 year old female. Then I’m going to tell them “I see dead people”.<BR> </TT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana"><BR> </FONT> <br> </BODY> </HTML> ------=_Part_2473_3324364.1096436994705-- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By kenyatta cheese | kenyatta cheese <minitrue@...> | yattacheese
September 29, 2004 | Post #1314 | Topic #1299

--B_3179267566_10765813 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable There=B9s a really fun article in Wired this month about the digital media = distribution thing =AD in particular about how TV channels, movie theaters,= and music stores are all based on a scarcity of distribution while with so= mething like the iTunes music store, =B3stocking an item=B2 is just an entr= y in a database. It costs just as little to sell an unpopular song as it d= oes to sell a popular song. Often, the sum of unpopular song sales can equ= al or exceed that of the most popular songs. Meaning: unpopular can be ver= y profitable if the distribution channel is wide enough. I think the artic= le is titled =8CThe Long Tail.=B9 It should be online next Tuesday (I=B9ll= link it once I see it.) Bringing it home to IndTV: distribution in a land= scape of scarcity (broadcast/cablecast) takes lots of capital and lots of c= lout. And once you acquire that real estate, building out and maintaining = the network and head end is frikkin expensive. Even if they invest heavily= in the current generation of =B3interactive=B2 broadcast TV products, it s= till won=B9t allow them to equal the level of collaboration and conversatio= n we=B9re seeing on the net. And that=B9s okay, b/c maybe they don=B9t wan= t to. But if they=B9ve crafted their format, identified their market segme= nt, and signed up a bunch of marketers... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
September 29, 2004 | Post #1316 | Topic #1299

--B_3179258102_455187 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 9/28/04 10:49 PM, "Joshua Kinberg" <jkinberg@...> wrote: >> >I don'= t know if it's fair to judge them strictly on content yet. > > Fair assess= ment as there is no content yet. Only inference. But predictable > content.= > >> >their stuff is really gimmicky at this point, and I hope that will = >> >change once they get their footing. It will partly depend on the > > W= hy do you hope it will change? I would hope that it dies and goes away or >= rather that it looks so obviously insulting that it dries up and emulsifie= s. > Why start with a gimmick? snake oil. > >> >talent they recruit and ho= w much control/constraints they exert on the >> >content that those people = produce. Regardless, I think there is room >> >in this medium for all sorts= -- independent and corporate. > > I don=B9t understand the part about the= re being =B3room=B2. There=B9s room for > everything, correct? There=B9s ro= om for all sorts of goose stomping, there=B9s > always plenty of room. When= would there not be room? Its infinite. > >> >At this point, I'm more inte= rested in the implementation. Are they >> >doing something that makes video= blogging more accessible for media >> >creators/consumers? Whether its in t= erms of tools for publishing, >> >sharing, archiving, syndicating, searchin= g, etc..... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Jay dedman | Jay dedman <jay.dedman@...> | kinshasa2000
September 29, 2004 | Post #1315 | Topic #1299

Kenyatta I think has the right idea. god bless em if they can pull it off. but they are competing in an old-timey model. ill take this opportunity to point you to this project: http://www.ourmedia.org/FAQs.html which I think is more up everyone's alley here. its bascially a big playground. Its all about playing around and being serious. Free storage and bandwidth for your audio/photos/video. You let other people play with your work. (not profit) bascially anyone on the p,anet wirth an internet connection. i think we all have to learn about playing nice withe each other. we've never done this before on this scale. we've spent our lives just watching watching watching...doing our best to get some stuff made. Now the dream is approaching....make and distribute like sending an email. I think its going to be really really really crazy and it's going to take us some time to adjust. breathe. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Christopher Weagel | Christopher Weagel <humandog@...> | ronnalddd
September 29, 2004 | Post #1318 | Topic #1299

The thing that bugged me was that it comes off as INDtv wanting its applicants to do all the work for them, then they own all the material produced. What they should do is allow users to submit videos for air in a way that clearly states the creator retains ownership and rights to their work. INDtv would be licensing the work for broadcast. Anything beyond that would have to be worked out between producers and INDtv. The application and site don't address that issue. If they do this in the future, then I'd feel better about it. Right now it just comes across as another lazy corporation. Another gripe cause its late. maniatv.com launched as an internet tv network. Looking at its low-budget MTV. They show mainstream music videos etc etc. It's clear they're going for a predictable, existing teen market. But their content doesn't make sense for an Internet TV network, When there are millions of people downloading videos of people being beheaded, why would you set up an internet network whose content is the same mainstream stuff they're abandoning in droves? chris [View]



Re: [videoblogging] INdTV

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <videoblog@...> | andreashaugstrup
September 30, 2004 | Post #1324 | Topic #1299

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 02:56:40 -0400, Christopher Weagel <humandog@...> wrote: > The thing that bugged me was that it comes off as INDtv wanting its > applicants to do all the work for them, then they own all the material > produced. This is standard for all the publishing companies I've heard of (excluding still photographers who have a good union here). It's an easy way for a media company to secure exclusive rights - they are paying you to do the work after all. A comparison is a computer programmer: He doesn't own any of the code he writes for a company either. Of course it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when they call it idenpendent tv or whatever. But as a business they need exclusive rights for the content produced by their employees. Otherwise they're just throwing money out the window. -- Personal: <http://www.solitude.dk&gt; File Thingie - PHP File Manager <http://www.solitude.dk/filethingie/&gt; [View]