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When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Josh Wolf | Josh Wolf <inthecity@...> | lifeinlowerhaight
July 16, 2005 | Post #17136 | Topic #17136

Hey guys, haven't had the time to actually sit down to make a vlog post about this yet; things have been really crazy for the past couple days. So... you know how people sometimes joke around about how the FBI probably has a file on them, well, I think I can be pretty certain at this point. Perhaps not for my political beliefs, but certainly as a potential witness in an investigation. This past Thursday, the FBI showed up at my house... seeing as the URL for my blog is http:// nogovernment.us -- when I see the badge, I'm hoping they're here about that Metallica CD I downloaded off Napster back in 1999... Nope, they want to talk about what I witnessed at the protest last week. What protest you ask? Well, last Friday there was a protest in San Francisco and during the protest an officer an officer ended up injured. I didn't witness the actual incident, so I won't discuss exactly what happened. But, my video was of interest to the FBI. How did the FBI come across my video? Well, they probably just found it when they turned on the local news as several local news stations decided it'd be fun to use my video without consulting me first about obtaining the rights. Fortunately, after sending a bill to all the stations that had been using my footage most have complied or settled for an amount I... [View]



Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By David Meade | "David Meade" <david_meade@...> | david_meade
July 16, 2005 | Post #17144 | Topic #17136

Interesting story, I cant wait for the vlog. Also, your story got me thinking... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf <inthecity@s...> > Fortunately, after sending a bill to all the > stations that had been using my footage most have > complied or settled for an amount I felt was reasonable. You know it might not be a bad idea to have an example of the letter/email you sent saved in the Files section here in case others find themselves in a similar situation. I don't mind reuse of my stuff so long as it's within my creative commons license. I know Andrew has sent several emails to sites that were putting up Rocketboom content ... examples of those emails wouold be good too. You know just sort of templates people can grab/edit when they feel they need to send such things. Examples of things that have gotten results before. /shrug - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com [View]



Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By ro9core | "ro9core" <ro_core@...> | ro9core
July 16, 2005 | Post #17145 | Topic #17136

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Wolf <inthecity@s...> wrote: > Hey guys, haven't had the time to actually sit down to make a vlog > post about this yet; things have been really crazy for the past > couple days. > > So... you know how people sometimes joke around about how the FBI > probably has a file on them, well, I think I can be pretty certain at > this point. Perhaps not for my political beliefs, but certainly as a > potential witness in an investigation. This past Thursday, the FBI > showed up at my house... seeing as the URL for my blog is http:// > nogovernment.us -- when I see the badge, I'm hoping they're here > about that Metallica CD I downloaded off Napster back in 1999... > > Nope, they want to talk about what I witnessed at the protest last > week. What protest you ask? Well, last Friday there was a protest in > San Francisco and during the protest an officer an officer ended up > injured. I didn't witness the actual incident, so I won't discuss > exactly what happened. But, my video was of interest to the FBI. How > did the FBI come across my video? Well, they probably just found it > when they turned on the local news as several local news stations > decided it'd be fun to use my video without consulting me first about... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Halcyon Lujah | Halcyon Lujah <halcyon@...> | halcyonstyn
July 16, 2005 | Post #17165 | Topic #17136

Wow! That is exciting stuff! Like an actual measuring point in the (soon= -to-be-historic) media shift. Well done! And the whole experience is helpi= ng fund your RUN!? It's like a freakin' counter-culture story book! Hazzah= ! I had a vaguely expereince in the 90's when a coporation (fruit of the l= oom) sued me over a parody article. The way it played out turned out to b= e one of those "Okay, things are different now" moments. (The internet com= munity rose up and FoTL backed down.) http://prehensile.com/does/fruitloom.= htm IN any case, that kinda thing makes me mentally erect. Thanks for sh= aring. -Halcyon http://www.SpreadingThePink.com http://www.cockybastard.com On 7/16/05,= Josh Wolf <inthecity@...> wrote: > Hey guys, haven't had the ti= me to actually sit down to make a vlog > post about this yet; things hav= e been really crazy for the past > couple days. > > So... you know ho= w people sometimes joke around about how the FBI > probably has a file o= n them, well, I think I can be pretty certain at > this point. Perhaps n= ot for my political beliefs, but certainly as a > potential witness in a= n investigation. This past Thursday, the FBI > showed up at my house... = seeing as the URL for my blog is http:// > nogovernment.us -- when I see = the badge, I'm hoping they're here > about that Metallica CD I downloade=... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Michael Verdi | Michael Verdi <michael@...> | filmguy1105
July 16, 2005 | Post #17173 | Topic #17136

On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:31 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: > David: 3, > Goliath: maybe 1! > Awesome Josh! -Verdi [View]



Re: [videoblogging] When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Cheryl Shuman, The One and Only :-) | "Cheryl Shuman, The One and Only :-\)" <cheryl@...> | cherylshuman
July 16, 2005 | Post #17174 | Topic #17136

------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C589F1.273908A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amen! ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Verdi To: videoblo= gging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: = Re: [videoblogging] When the FBI knocks on your door... On Jul 16, 2005= , at 4:31 AM, Josh Wolf wrote: > David: 3, > Goliath: maybe 1! > = Awesome Josh! -Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Computer internet access Indiv= idual Fireant Introduce yourself Browse -------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS= LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b= .. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-un= subscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subj= ect to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C589F1.273908A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>= <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1= "> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE= > </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Amen!</= FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MA= RGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV = style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV st= yle=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</= B> <A title=3Dmichael@... href=3D"mailto:michael@michael= verdi.com">Michael Verdi</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To= :</B> <A title=3Dvideoblogging@yahoogroups.com href=3D"mailto:videobl= ogging@yahoogroups.com">videoblogging@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV> <DIV = style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:20 AM= </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [videoblogging= ] When the FBI knocks on your door...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>On Jul = 16, 2005, at 4:31 AM, Josh Wolf wrote:<BR><BR>>  David: 3,<BR>&g= t; Goliath: maybe 1!<BR>><BR><BR>Awesome Josh!<BR>-Verdi<BR></TT></BO= DY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C589F1.273908A0-- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Josh Wolf | Josh Wolf <inthecity@...> | lifeinlowerhaight
July 16, 2005 | Post #17176 | Topic #17136

I don't know whether the letter I sent to them really belongs in a files section as certain elements of my e-mail are not part of the most ideal approach in all circumstances, but here it is as a starting point... the real trick is finding out who the news director is and sending it directly to her or him. Josh My name is Josh Wolf and it's come to my attention that your station has apparently been making use of footage regarding the San Francisco protest that was shot by me and most likely obtained through the Indybay website. As I do not have a TV, I can not personally verify that your station has been using my footage, but have heard this from numerous sources, and I have a friend with video from the broadcasts so I will be able verify this for myself. If for some reason any sort of misunderstanding has occured and you have not been making use of my footage, I'm sorry for sending such a strong e- mail but feel the need to protect myself. I own the copyright on the material which is licensed under a Creative Commons license (http:// creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/deed.en_GB). The link to the video on Indybay has a link to both my website and my e-mail address. Based on this information, it would not have been difficult for your news department to contact me about obtaining permission to utilize my... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Jan | "Jan" <vze4pnhk@...> | janmclaughlin08
July 16, 2005 | Post #17181 | Topic #17136

So, Josh, how did you learn the stringer rate and would you be so kind as to share the info? Jan -- "It isn't done alone." http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://blog.urbanartadventures.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Wolf" <inthecity@...> To: <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door... >I don't know whether the letter I sent to them really belongs in a > files section as certain elements of my e-mail are not part of the > most ideal approach in all circumstances, but here it is as a > starting point... the real trick is finding out who the news director > is and sending it directly to her or him. > > Josh > > > My name is Josh Wolf and it's come to my attention that your > station has apparently been making use of footage regarding the San > Francisco protest that was shot by me and most likely obtained > through the Indybay website. As I do not have a TV, I can not > personally verify that your station has been using my footage, but > have heard this from numerous sources, and I have a friend with video > from the broadcasts so I will be able verify this for myself. If for > some reason any sort of misunderstanding has occured and you have not > been making use of my footage, I'm... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Josh Wolf | Josh Wolf <inthecity@...> | lifeinlowerhaight
July 16, 2005 | Post #17184 | Topic #17136

The stringer rate varies by market... I live in San Francisco which I believe is ranked 5th or 6th in the country so it's probably one of the better markets for stringer footage. Here in SF the local stations pay between $150-165 for stringer footage... If you call a local station and talk to them for a while, it should be easy to get them to tell you what they pay for stringer footage and chances are all the stations in that area pay the same or within a few dollars. Josh On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Jan wrote: > So, Josh, how did you learn the stringer rate and would you be so > kind as to > share the info? > > Jan > > -- > "It isn't done alone." > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com > http://blog.urbanartadventures.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Wolf" <inthecity@...> > To: <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door... > > > >I don't know whether the letter I sent to them really belongs in a > > files section as certain elements of my e-mail are not part of the > > most ideal approach in all circumstances, but here it is as a > > starting point... the real trick is finding out who the news > director > > is and sending... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the FBI knocks on your door…

By Jack Nelson | Jack Nelson <jack@...> | mizzenfilms
July 16, 2005 | Post #17187 | Topic #17136

Way to go Josh. Great letter and congrats on getting them to pay up On Jul 16, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Josh Wolf wrote: > I don't know whether the letter I sent to them really belongs in a > files section as certain elements of my e-mail are not part of the > most ideal approach in all circumstances, but here it is as a > starting point... the real trick is finding out who the news director > is and sending it directly to her or him. > > Josh > > > My name is Josh Wolf and it's come to my attention that your > station has apparently been making use of footage regarding the San > Francisco protest that was shot by me and most likely obtained > through the Indybay website. As I do not have a TV, I can not > personally verify that your station has been using my footage, but > have heard this from numerous sources, and I have a friend with video > from the broadcasts so I will be able verify this for myself. If for > some reason any sort of misunderstanding has occured and you have not > been making use of my footage, I'm sorry for sending such a strong e- > mail but feel the need to protect myself. I own the copyright on the > material which is licensed under a Creative Commons... [View]