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To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By naschmult | "naschmult" <naschmult@...> | naschmult
July 26, 2005 | Post #18141 | Topic #18141

I have been using Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it is called from XP), sometimes it just crashes on me and drives a little crazy because I want to get my work done. So I have thought about buying quicktime pro for windows.. Any that agree or oppose? Please elaborate... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Markus Sandy | Markus Sandy <markus@...> | apperceive
July 26, 2005 | Post #18144 | Topic #18141

i use it on Win2K be aware that you have to pay the quicktime pro tax EACH time you upgrade and that there is an upgrade QT7 currently in beta I believe the first time i got qtpro 6.5 on mac, there was an upgrade one month later and apple's faq said "pay up again or downgrade - your old key won't work" - it soon became apparent that I wanted to go up, not down - those bastards I think its a good tool for the money, but wait for QT7 if you can to maximize your investment naschmult wrote: >I have been using Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it is called from >XP), sometimes it just crashes on me and drives a little crazy because >I want to get my work done. > >So I have thought about buying quicktime pro for windows.. > >Any that agree or oppose? Please elaborate... > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: markus.sandy@... msn: msandy@... skype: msandy [View]



Re: [videoblogging] To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Ryan Ozawa | Ryan Ozawa <ryanozawa@...> | ryanozawa
July 26, 2005 | Post #18142 | Topic #18141

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I recently switched from PC = to Mac (yay!), but even when I was on XP on an old Dell, QuickTime Pro was = a great utility. And, even as I learn my way around the Mac again, I'm fin= ding QuickTime Pro to still be a preferred tool -- even with iMovie availab= le. I think it's a very worthwhile purchase, if not as a movie editor, at = least as a reliable compressor/converter! - -- Ryan HawaiiVog http://www.l= ightfantastic.org/imr/extras/videoblog -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Versi= on: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: http://www.pgp.com Comment: http://= http://www.lightfantastic.org/pgp.txt iQA/AwUBQuZvts/o8udD/KcXEQIwsQCg88jxVpPnDhp= FGkdKTUmadfulzNMAn1og jGfNFkcwPMYOy6WWRaA5QUne =3Dn25P -----END PGP SIGNATU= RE----- [View]



Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By ro9core | "ro9core" <ro_core@...> | ro9core
July 26, 2005 | Post #18143 | Topic #18141

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "naschmult" <naschmult@y...> wrote: > I have been using Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it is called from > XP), sometimes it just crashes on me and drives a little crazy because > I want to get my work done. > > So I have thought about buying quicktime pro for windows.. > > Any that agree or oppose? Please elaborate... Personally I would hold off on it. You get nearly nothing for the registration fee, and on top of it, QT7 beta for Windows is crap. Yes, its a beta, and therefore its bugginess is anticipated, but I installed it because more and more vloggers are encoding their vids with QT7 codecs on macs, and so, being on windows, I have upgraded to see their goods. Wait a while until QT7 is more mature on Windows, and then re-evaluate. RO [View]



Re: [videoblogging] To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Michael Verdi | Michael Verdi <michael@...> | filmguy1105
July 26, 2005 | Post #18161 | Topic #18141

Also be aware that the only kind of editing that you can do in QT pro is cut and paste. There are no transitons, no timelines, no titling tools, etc. That being said there are all kinds of other things you can do and it's totally worth the cost. I just say this because some people have found it a disappointment when trying to replace their timeline based editor. -Verdi http://michaelverdi.com http://freevlog.org On Jul 26, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: > i use it on Win2K > be aware that you have to pay the quicktime pro tax EACH time you > upgrade and that there is an upgrade QT7 currently in beta I believe > > the first time i got qtpro 6.5 on mac, there was an upgrade one month > later and apple's faq said "pay up again or downgrade - your old key > won't work" - it soon became apparent that I wanted to go up, not > down - > those bastards > > I think its a good tool for the money, but wait for QT7 if you can to > maximize your investment > > > naschmult wrote: > > >> I have been using Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it is called >> from >> XP), sometimes it just crashes on me and drives a little crazy >> because >> I want to get my work done. >> >>... [View]



Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By naschmult | "naschmult" <naschmult@...> | naschmult
July 27, 2005 | Post #18185 | Topic #18141

So what program do you use for editing? Nick --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi <michael@m...> wrote: > Also be aware that the only kind of editing that you can do in QT pro > is cut and paste. There are no transitons, no timelines, no titling > tools, etc. That being said there are all kinds of other things you > can do and it's totally worth the cost. I just say this because some > people have found it a disappointment when trying to replace their > timeline based editor. > > -Verdi > http://michaelverdi.com > http://freevlog.org > > > On Jul 26, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: > > > i use it on Win2K > > be aware that you have to pay the quicktime pro tax EACH time you > > upgrade and that there is an upgrade QT7 currently in beta I believe > > > > the first time i got qtpro 6.5 on mac, there was an upgrade one month > > later and apple's faq said "pay up again or downgrade - your old key > > won't work" - it soon became apparent that I wanted to go up, not > > down - > > those bastards > > > > I think its a good tool for the money, but wait for QT7 if you can to > > maximize your investment > > > > >... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Jack Nelson | Jack Nelson <jack@...> | mexiculture
July 27, 2005 | Post #18187 | Topic #18141

I use mostly Final Cut Pro. It has a steep learning curve, but it's a powerful program. I've also got iMovie and occasionally use it if I know it will be a quick and dirty video. Although you can do things like L-edits (video ends before the sound) and J-edits (sound starts before the video) in iMovie, you have more control in FCP and with a little practice it is easier to do this in Final Cut. On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:14 PM, naschmult wrote: > So what program do you use for editing? > Nick > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi <michael@m...> > wrote: >> Also be aware that the only kind of editing that you can do in QT pro >> is cut and paste. There are no transitons, no timelines, no titling >> tools, etc. That being said there are all kinds of other things you >> can do and it's totally worth the cost. I just say this because some >> people have found it a disappointment when trying to replace their >> timeline based editor. >> >> -Verdi >> http://michaelverdi.com >> http://freevlog.org >> >> >> On Jul 26, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: >> >>> i use it on Win2K >>> be aware that you have to pay the quicktime pro tax EACH time you >>> upgrade and that there is an upgrade QT7 currently in beta I believe... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By R. Kristiansen | "R. Kristiansen" <raymondmk@...> | admnory
July 27, 2005 | Post #18189 | Topic #18141

I agree, there are no timelines, no transitions, or titling tools in QT Pro= . And still, I have managed to vlog for 7 months using QT pro 99% of the ti= me. So clearly, it IS possible to vlog with QT pro. Just had to say that :)= If you are used to a timeline based editor, stick with that. But QT can d= o a lot of nifty things. Most of it is a hack, but for instance Andreas Hau= gstrup has made cool tools for it - "thingies". Also, Adrian Miles is a big= QT user, but most of his stuff I cannot duplicate because I don't have tho= se fancyfancy tools or the knowhow. In my opinion, QT Pro is worth the mon= ey (make sure you buy the 6.5 version, not the QT 7 beta), but it is what i= t is. With time, I will make a bunch of screencasts documenting how I at l= east use QT pro. That's a project i've procrastinated for 6 months, argh. = Best, Raymond M. Kristiansen dltq.org On 7/26/05, Michael Verdi <michael= @...> wrote: > Also be aware that the only kind of editing tha= t you can do in QT pro > is cut and paste. There are no transitons, no tim= elines, no titling > tools, etc. That being said there are all kinds of ot= her things you > can do and it's totally... [View]



Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By David Meade | "David Meade" <david_meade@...> | david_meade
July 27, 2005 | Post #18208 | Topic #18141

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen" <raymondmk@g...> wrote: > I agree, there are no timelines, no transitions, or titling tools in > QT Pro. And still, I have managed to vlog for 7 months using QT pro > 99% of the time. So clearly, it IS possible to vlog with QT pro. > > With time, I will make a bunch of screencasts documenting how I at > least use QT pro. That's a project i've procrastinated for 6 months, > argh. Oh man I would love to see those screencasts Raymond. I've thought about QuickTime Pro a few times, but have never REALLY understood what it was that I was buying! :-P Forgive me my ignorance, I'm a windows user who wanted to produce QT movies ... and apple.com says QT Pro will do it ... so I've considered it. But then everyone says it has no timeline, no titling, no transitions ... etc ... I'm just having a real hard time imagining how it manages to do thoe 'other cool stuff' it can do ... whatever that is. I haven't found any real good info online about it either ... maybe I just am not getting it because I'm used to timeline / windows environment - but if somone could vlog a) what QT Pro can do for you as oppossed to say ulead's 'video studio 9' (which can save .mov files) and b) how QT actually does what... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Charles HOPE | Charles HOPE <charles.hope@...> | pokkarichuck
July 27, 2005 | Post #18212 | Topic #18141

--------------060306010408060907050008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Meade wrote: > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen" > <raymondmk@g...> wrote: > > I agree, there are no timelines, no transitions, or titling tools in > > QT Pro. And still, I have managed to vlog for 7 months using QT pro > > 99% of the time. So clearly, it IS possible to vlog with QT pro. > > > > With time, I will make a bunch of screencasts documenting how I at > > least use QT pro. That's a project i've procrastinated for 6 months, > > argh. > > Oh man I would love to see those screencasts Raymond. I've thought > about QuickTime Pro a few times, but have never REALLY understood what > it was that I was buying! :-P > > Forgive me my ignorance, I'm a windows user who wanted to produce QT > movies ... and apple.com says QT Pro will do it ... so I've considered it. I'm eager for a clue as well. Can I edit my movies in MovieMaker and then use QT Pro to generate QT files from them? I think QT looks much better than WM. Will I get decent quality this way, or will I simply end up with QT movies that look like WM movies? --------------060306010408060907050008 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="charles.hope.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="charles.hope.vcf" [ Attachment content not displayed ] --------------060306010408060907050008-- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Christopher Ivanyi | Christopher Ivanyi <civanyi@...> | civanyi
July 27, 2005 | Post #18213 | Topic #18141

QT is not meant to be a fancy editing tool, but it works extremely well com= pressing your files, and playing your movies. I too have never liked the f= act that you have to constantly pay for upgrades. But besides that, you ed= it with you fancy editing program and use QT to compress, and present. And= for cut and paste editing, you can't beat QT. On 7/27/05, Charles HOPE <c= harles.hope@...> wrote: > David Meade wrote: > > > --- In videoblog= ging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen" > > <raymondmk@g...> wrote: > > > I = agree, there are no timelines, no transitions, or titling tools in > > > QT= Pro. And still, I have managed to vlog for 7 months using QT pro > > > 99%= of the time. So clearly, it IS possible to vlog with QT pro. > > > > > > W= ith time, I will make a bunch of screencasts documenting how I at > > > lea= st use QT pro. That's a project i've procrastinated for 6 months, > > > arg= h. > > > > Oh man I would love to see those screencasts Raymond. I've thou= ght > > about QuickTime Pro a few times, but have never REALLY understood w= hat > > it was that I was buying! :-P > > > > Forgive me my ignorance, I'm = a windows user who wanted to... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Sheldon Pineo | Sheldon Pineo <icenrye@...> | sheldon-andice
July 27, 2005 | Post #18253 | Topic #18141

On 7/27/05, David Meade <david_meade@...> wrote: > Forgive me my igno= rance, I'm a windows user who wanted to produce QT > movies ... and apple.= com says QT Pro will do it ... so I've considered it. I have QT Pro. V6.5 = I only use it for compressing to .mov, or .mp4 for my videos. It does the= job fine, however I do get large file sizes. When I compare a mp4 to a wm= v file (250kps music 32kbs 15fps) I generally prefer the wmv format. For t= he high end codecs, I use DivX. If you want to compare results, check out = either episode 3 or 4 of my Geocaching videozine. They're available in mov= , mp4, wmv, rm and avi formats. You can download, watch and compare. Epis= ode 3 is http://www.archive.org/details/IcenryesGeocachingVideozineEpisode3= here. Episode 4 is http://www.archive.org/details/IcenryesGeocachingVideoz= ineEpisode4 here. >but if someone could vlog a) what QT Pro can do for you= > as oppossed to say ulead's 'video studio 9' (which can save .mov > files= ) and b) how QT actually does what it does (the interface I > mean), I woul= d be veary eager to see that vlog. It already exist. Check out the tutor= ials at http://www.freevlog.org/ Hope this helps. Shel http://www.icenrye.com ww= w.icenrye.blogspot.com [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze@...> | lucas_gonze
July 27, 2005 | Post #18254 | Topic #18141

I bought QT Pro once, and then Apple rev'd the version a month or so later.= Never again. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <solitude@...> | andreashaugstrup
July 27, 2005 | Post #18255 | Topic #18141

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:46:36 +0200, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze@...> wrote: > I bought QT Pro once, and then Apple rev'd the version a month or so > later. Never again. Would people please stop whining about this. This is how all software works. You buy a version and then you pay to upgrade. End of story. Just because I've got Adobe Premiere 6 on my computer doesn't entitle me to a free upgrade to Premiere Pro. Just because I've got MS Word 2000 doesn't mean Microsoft are going to hand me a free version of MS Word XP. Get over it. - Andreas -- <URL:http://www.solitude.dk/&gt; Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 27, 2005 | Post #18256 | Topic #18141

around the 27/7/05 Christopher Ivanyi mentioned about Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Qui that: >to compress, and present. And for cut and paste editing, you can't beat QT and for layering, and for collage, and for text tracks, and for multiple language tracks, and for embedding flash buttons, and for making skinned movies, and for setting volume, and for setting loop properties, and for setting controller properties. Yes, QT uses layers. Paste a still and 2 bits of video and you can overlap them by using layers. You can hae a norwegian and an english soundtrack and on a norwegian system you will hear the norwegian commentary, on english system the english. you don't have to do anything more than have multiple language tracks. you can use QT pro to put a mask over your movie. Set transparencys. Add real time effects (i mean run time effects such as fire, film grain, etc). QT pro is *not* just a media playback or compression engine, though it does these very very well. -- cheers Adrian Miles hypertext.RMIT <URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog&gt; [View]



Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
July 27, 2005 | Post #18257 | Topic #18141

> Would people please stop whining about this. This is how all software > works. You buy a version and then you pay to upgrade. End of story. It's not. The difference is this: you HAVE to upgrade in order to *watch* videos on the web. But the upgrade deletes your previous Quicktime pro, and therefor you loose your cash. I will never again pay for Quicktime pro, either. It's not worth it, for me. Peter http://mefeedia.com [View]



[videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 27, 2005 | Post #18271 | Topic #18141

around the 28/7/05 petertheman mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quickti that: > >It's not. The difference is this: you HAVE to upgrade in order to >*watch* videos on the web. But the upgrade deletes your previous >Quicktime pro, and therefor you loose your cash. I will never again >pay for Quicktime pro, either. It's not worth it, for me. now that's a bloody good point. and sucks. -- cheers Adrian Miles hypertext.RMIT <URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog&gt; [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: To buy Quicktime Pro or Not buy Quicktime Pro

By Jan McLaughlin | Jan McLaughlin <vze4pnhk@...> | janmclaughlin08
July 28, 2005 | Post #18376 | Topic #18141

Don't know if this helps, Charles, but I've just used flip4mac to convert some WMV files to QT. See if you think they feel like WMV files. The "Strangers" video and the "Princess & Man of Her Dreams" vids originate with WMV files. http://fauxpress.blogspot.com Jan -- "It isn't done alone" http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://blog.urbanartadventures.com . On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:16 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: > David Meade wrote: > >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen" >> <raymondmk@g...> wrote: >>> I agree, there are no timelines, no transitions, or titling tools in >>> QT Pro. And still, I have managed to vlog for 7 months using QT pro >>> 99% of the time. So clearly, it IS possible to vlog with QT pro. >>> >>> With time, I will make a bunch of screencasts documenting how I at >>> least use QT pro. That's a project i've procrastinated for 6 months, >>> argh. >> >> Oh man I would love to see those screencasts Raymond. I've thought >> about QuickTime Pro a few times, but have never REALLY understood what >> it was that I was buying! :-P >> >> Forgive me my ignorance, I'm a windows user who wanted to produce QT >> movies ... and apple.com says QT Pro will do it ... so I've >> considered it. > > > I'm eager for a clue as well. Can I edit my movies in MovieMaker and > then use QT... [View]