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home video in retrographics

By Rich Hand | "Rich Hand" <richhand@...> | richhand_kronos
October 8, 2005 | Post #23756 | Topic #23756

Please forgive me if this has been asked prior. I would like to take some = home vid's and convert them or portions to the retorgraphics look. Can a= nyone tell me if this is possible on a home budget? How would I do this and= what do I need? Thanks in advance. [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Rich Hand | "Rich Hand" <richhand@...> | richhand_kronos
October 8, 2005 | Post #23757 | Topic #23756

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rich Hand" <richhand@g...> wrote: >= > Please forgive me if this has been asked prior. > > I would like to tak= e some home vid's and convert them or portions to > the retorgraphics look= . > > Can anyone tell me if this is possible on a home budget? > How woul= d I do this and what do I need? > > Thanks in advance. > DOH!!!!!! I mea= nt rotoscope. [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Rich Hand | "Rich Hand" <richhand@...> | richhand_kronos
October 8, 2005 | Post #23758 | Topic #23756

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rich Hand" <richhand@g...> wrote: >= > Please forgive me if this has been asked prior. > > I would like to tak= e some home vid's and convert them or portions to > the retorgraphics look= . > > Can anyone tell me if this is possible on a home budget? > How woul= d I do this and what do I need? > > Thanks in advance. > Okay, so now I so= und like a complete dweeb. The thing I am trying to do is make my digita= l video look like the "animated" like version similar to the recent Keanu = Reeves film "A Scanner Darkly". [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
October 8, 2005 | Post #23760 | Topic #23756

Hi Rich, You sure are making me do a lot of Google searches this morning. That movie looks really cool: <http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/ascannerdarkly.html&gt; On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > Okay, so now I sound like a complete dweeb. The thing I am trying to > do is make my digital video look like the "animated" like version > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanner Darkly". --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
October 8, 2005 | Post #23768 | Topic #23756

Studio Artist will do what you want. http://www.synthetik.com/ On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > The thing I am trying to > do is make my digital video look like the "animated" like version > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanner Darkly". --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
October 8, 2005 | Post #23762 | Topic #23756

Check this demo: http://www.synthetik.com/Gallery/Victormovpages/Vect1high.htm On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > The thing I am trying to > do is make my digital video look like the "animated" like version > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanner Darkly". --Steve -- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Dan R | "Dan R" <tlc35us@...> | tlc35us
October 8, 2005 | Post #23777 | Topic #23756

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o...> wrote: >= > Studio Artist will do what you want. > > http://www.synthetik.com/ T= hat's the route I'd go. They have had nice gallery examples in the past. I= f your budget is lower than that you'll probably have to export your video= to frames and batch process it with a painter or photoshop filter. a filt= er could get you most of the way before you start retouching by hand. = Dan R > On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > > > The= thing I am trying to > > do is make my digital video look like the "animat= ed" like version > > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanner Dar= kly". > > --Steve > -- > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com > Video Blo= g - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com > Text Blog - http://offonatangent.= blogspot.com > > Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution.= > [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Jack Nelson | "Jack Nelson" <jack@...> | mexiculture
October 8, 2005 | Post #23779 | Topic #23756

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o...> wrote: > = > Studio Artist will do what you want. Yeah, it will and it looks real coo= l. Technically I don't think it's really rotoscoping though (they call it = auto-rotoscoping). It's more like filtering and posterizing the frames. Rea= l rotoscoping is tracing a real video. It's not for everybody as tracing 3= 0 or even 15 frames per second of video is a huge job. If that's what you = want you'll end up with a more hand- made type of look (after hours and hou= rs of work). If you have Quicktime Pro you can export a movie as an image = sequence. Then import the images into Photoshop or another graphics progra= m and trace, color, or even posterize away. You'll end up with a folder ful= l of images that you can then turn back into a movie with Quicktime Pro. T= here are probably other ways to do this and if anyone knows I'd like to he= ar them. I've used this method to make a shaky sequence steady (you have = to crop the image too), but like I said if you are not the patient type an= y type of frame by frame process is agonizing. [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Bill Streeter | "Bill Streeter" <bill@...> | straydogma
October 8, 2005 | Post #23791 | Topic #23756

Yeah this is the second film that Richard Linklater has done like this. The= first was Waking Life in 2001. It's a pretty incredible technique. You can= shoot really low budget because the rotoscoping is really what you see on = screen. I know that the way Waking Life was done is with a custom solution= developed by an Austin TX company called Flat Black Films and it's based o= n Quicktime. There were promises of making a commercial version of the App = but I dunno what happened to that plan, because as far as I know it never h= appened. Even so even with this software the process is very labor intenisi= ve. Each frame is digitally hand drawn. The closest thing I could come up w= ith was importing movies into Flash and then using the (inadiquate) flash v= ector tools to trace each frame. This was the most effecent way I could com= e up with and it wasn't pretty. There are ways of getting an animated looki= ng effect that are much less labor intensive either using photoshop actions= and quicktime or right within Final Cut Pro. But none of them really look = as good as the look you're going for. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www= .lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o= ...> wrote: > > Hi Rich, > You sure are making me do a lot of Google search= es this... [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Bill Streeter | "Bill Streeter" <bill@...> | straydogma
October 8, 2005 | Post #23792 | Topic #23756

Yeah a lot of that stuff looks like things you can do within FCP or just ph= otoshop actions and quicktime. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS http://www.lofist= l.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o...> wr= ote: > > Check this demo: > > http://www.synthetik.com/Gallery/Victormovpa= ges/Vect1high.htm > > On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > > >= The thing I am trying to > > do is make my digital video look like the "a= nimated" like version > > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanne= r Darkly". > > --Steve > -- > Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com > Vide= o Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com > Text Blog - http://offonatan= gent.blogspot.com > > Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolu= tion. > [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics

By juan gonzalez | "juan gonzalez" <carlospainter@...> | mrmultiple2
October 9, 2005 | Post #23800 | Topic #23756

I interned with Bob Sabistion, maker of WAKING LIFe, and the animators of ASCANNER DARKLY.... Bob Sabiston wrote the code for his program and in my opinion is a phenomenal animator himself.... as well as to mention a video artist himself. The name of the program he created is called "COLORENGINE." check out the DVD "waking Life" Bob Sabiston has a tutorial of his program in the "extras." I don't know of any other program that comes close to the "INTERPOLATION" invloved in "colorengine" nor success. google= Bob Sabiston ~juancarlosgonzalez aka mrmultiple2 http;//mrmultiple2.blogspot.com >From: Steve Garfield <steve@...> >Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics >Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:44:52 -0400 > > > > > >Studio Artist will do what you want. > > > >http://www.synthetik.com/ > > > >On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rich Hand wrote: > > > > > The thing I am trying to > > > do is make my digital video look like the "animated" like version > > > similar to the recent Keanu Reeves film "A Scanner Darkly". > > > >--Steve > >-- > >Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com > >Video Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.com > >Text Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.com > > > >Like Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > Visit... [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Jack Nelson | "Jack Nelson" <jack@...> | mexiculture
October 9, 2005 | Post #23809 | Topic #23756

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "juan gonzalez" <carlospainter@m...> = wrote: > > I interned with Bob Sabistion, maker of WAKING LIFe, and the ani= mators of > ASCANNER DARKLY.... Bob Sabiston wrote the code for his progra= m and in my > opinion is a phenomenal animator himself.... as well as to m= ention a video > artist himself. The name of the program he created is cal= led "COLORENGINE." Hey Juan, thanks for the info. Did you work on this fil= m? Hey I googled Bob and found this link: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m= /waking_life/trailers.php Scroll down to DVD Extra: Bob Sabiston's Animati= on Tutorial and watch that. He shows just a bit about how the film was ani= mated. Jack [View]



Re: home video in retrographics

By Steve Watkins | "Steve Watkins" <steve@...> | elbowsofdeath
October 9, 2005 | Post #23812 | Topic #23756

Im fascinated by the progress of various affordable solutions in this field= . Fully automated solutions wont give results as polished a result as that = film, but I believe its possible for videobloggers to use these sorts of cr= eative effects in a cheap/free and quick way. On both the PC and the Mac,= it is progress in the field of 3D Graphics card hardware which holds most = promise. In recent years, features have been added to 3D graphics cards tha= t enable all sorts of special effect to be handled quickly and at high reso= lution by the 3D card. These effects may not look like they are anything to= do with 3D of any kind, but they still use the 3D cards power to give impr= essive results. It is taking quite a long time for this stuff to get to a u= seable level, and for peoples computers to have enough power. But its getti= ng there. I see VJing software on the PC and Mac start to use this stuff. = Part of the plan for my (stalled) videoblog is to show videos of this stuff= in action, because a lot of it isnt very well known or immediately useable= /obvious to all people from non-VJing backgrounds. A major problem with mos= t solutions is that unlike editing software, they arent often designed to h= andle audio, because VJs often use silent clips. Anyway... [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics

By juan gonzalez | "juan gonzalez" <carlospainter@...> | mrmultiple2
October 9, 2005 | Post #23819 | Topic #23756

That's a Great link Jack. You can find more info about Bob Sabiston at his website. http://flatblackfilms.com/ His contact info is available to. No I didn"t work on Ascanner Darkly,, but I'm so so excited to see it. I saw Waking Life like 50 times. I interned in 2004 before Ascanner Darkly hit production. I worked on another project, a trailer for a movie of awesomely bizzare, absurd, funny situations and fantastical scifi elements. I haven't heard what came of the project. I assume it got shelved because Ascanner Darkly hit production and now Release. juan carlos gonzalez http://mrmultiple2.blogspot.com >From: "Jack Nelson" <jack@...> >Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [videoblogging] Re: home video in retrographics >Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:17:23 -0000 > > > > > >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "juan gonzalez" <carlospainter@m...> >wrote: > > > > > > I interned with Bob Sabistion, maker of WAKING LIFe, and the animators >of > > > ASCANNER DARKLY.... Bob Sabiston wrote the code for his program and in >my > > > opinion is a phenomenal animator himself.... as well as to mention a >video > > > artist himself. The name of the program he created is called >"COLORENGINE." > > > >Hey Juan, thanks for the info. Did you work on this film? Hey I googled Bob >and found this > >link: > > > >http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/waking_life/trailers.php > > > >Scroll down to DVD Extra: Bob Sabiston's Animation Tutorial and... [View]