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geek my ride

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 15, 2004 | Post #327 | Topic #327

Here's a video of a Lexus at Macworld outfitted with a rackmount Mac in the trunk and video editing station in the front seat. http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2004/07/geek_my_ride.html I had a nice 12 MB video of it at first, but it took way too long to download, nevermind the potential bandwidth costs. So I replaced that file with a 732 KB file. It's loads up real quick, but isn't the quality that I'd like to present on my web page. What a dilemma. --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: [videoblogging] geek my ride

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 15, 2004 | Post #328 | Topic #327

I ended up putting two links on the page. One to the low quality fast video and one to the high quality slow video. --Steve On Jul 15, 2004, at 7:17 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > Here's a video of a Lexus at Macworld outfitted with a rackmount Mac in > the trunk and video editing station in the front seat. > > http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2004/07/geek_my_ride.html > > I had a nice 12 MB video of it at first, but it took way too long to > download, nevermind the potential bandwidth costs. > > So I replaced that file with a 732 KB file. > > It's loads up real quick, but isn't the quality that I'd like to > present on my web page. > > What a dilemma. > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- > If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a > phone call. > > It's not you, it's them! > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: geek my ride

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
July 15, 2004 | Post #330 | Topic #327

> > So I replaced that file with a 732 KB file. > > It's loads up real quick, but isn't the quality that I'd like to > > present on my web page. The quality of the "small" file seems totally fine to me :) But I'm coming to understand that not everyone is willing to live with highly optimized video as I am... Here's a little system I've been thinking about: have a server side system that counts hits (or even measures bandwidth), and then serve the high quality file as long as you can every month, and by the end of the month when you start running out of bandwidth, serve the low quality file instead. Should be pretty doable with a simple scripting language... P [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: geek my ride

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 16, 2004 | Post #352 | Topic #327

On 16/07/2004, at 12:45 AM, petertheman wrote: > The quality of the "small" file seems totally fine to me :) But I'm > coming to understand that not everyone is willing to live with > highly optimized video as I am... > > Here's a little system I've been thinking about: have a server side > system that counts hits (or even measures bandwidth), and then serve > the high quality file as long as you can every month, and by the end > of the month when you start running out of bandwidth, serve the low > quality file instead. Should be pretty doable with a simple > scripting language... hi Peter wouldn't a problem with this be its inflexibility? It rewards those who visit early in the month but not late, which is at odds with the timing of publication in blogs... perhaps it ought to be that current (let's say work published in the last week) gets lots of bandwidth, work that is older than that is choked down? Or is low quality instead. You could script this quite easily, several scenarios possible of course. The issue would be to compress two versions (this is where something like cleaner comes in handy, since you can set up a batch that does this automatically). The high quality one (which would always be called nnnnn-hi.mov for eg) would be embedded on the home page, while on all archive pages... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] geek my ride

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 16, 2004 | Post #350 | Topic #327

On 15/07/2004, at 9:17 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: > I had a nice 12 MB video of it at first, but it took way too long to > download, nevermind the potential bandwidth costs. > > So I replaced that file with a 732 KB file. > > It's loads up real quick, but isn't the quality that I'd like to > present on my web page. > > What a dilemma. well, there's a big difference between 732kb and 12MB. what are you compressing with and to what data rate? cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] geek my ride

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 18, 2004 | Post #354 | Topic #327

On Jul 16, 2004, at 7:03 AM, Adrian Miles wrote: > > On 15/07/2004, at 9:17 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: > >> I had a nice 12 MB video of it at first, but it took way too long to >> download, nevermind the potential bandwidth costs. >> >> So I replaced that file with a 732 KB file. >> >> It's loads up real quick, but isn't the quality that I'd like to >> present on my web page. >> >> What a dilemma. > > well, there's a big difference between 732kb and 12MB. what are you > compressing with and to what data rate? > the 12 mb one I did from the show floor with Final cut pro, no change in options, just export quicktime, i think for the web. the second one used the middle sorenson squeeze setting for dial up users. > cheers > Adrian Miles > ................................................................. > hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian > interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog > research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: [videoblogging] geek my ride

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 22, 2004 | Post #387 | Topic #327

On 19/07/2004, at 8:47 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: > the 12 mb one I did from the show floor with Final cut pro, no change > in options, just export quicktime, i think for the web. > > the second one used the middle sorenson squeeze setting for dial up > users. I'd pitch for somewhere in between :-) Dial up is probably going to be too heavily compressed so look poor. I'd be thinking broadband delivery, and its important to keep in mind that when you use presets with codecs the rationale for something like dial up is not: "settings so that it will look ok other a dialup modem though you might have to wait five minutes to see it all and play it continously" but "this setting is designed so that the video can pretty much play on demand over dialup". The difference is simple, most of the presets treat things like 'dialup' as a compression setting so that video will stream in real time at that data rate, so it has to compress very very hard to achieve this. But you're not trying to real time stream, you're progressive streaming. The difference here is that with progressive download if it takes 5 minutes to download then it will, but all the data arrives. So since you're using progressive download just accept that if people really want to see your content (and they're not on broadband) then... [View]