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FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Steve Garfield OLD | Steve Garfield OLD <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 22, 2004 | Post #373 | Topic #373

Here's a report on blogs, video blogs and the Democratic Convention, featuring me, that ran on Boston's FOX 25 last night: http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2004/07/me_on_fox_25.html --Steve --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: [videoblogging] FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
July 22, 2004 | Post #380 | Topic #373

> Here's a report on blogs, video blogs and the Democratic Convention, > featuring me, that ran on Boston's FOX 25 last night: you did a great job. i especially loved the last line about videoblogging being unfiltered. youre becoming a bonafide "videoblogging expert". have you gotten much response from it? people who want to know how to videoblog? what are you planning for the DNC? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: [videoblogging] FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 22, 2004 | Post #381 | Topic #373

On Jul 22, 2004, at 5:28 PM, Jay Dedman wrote: > >> Here's a report on blogs, video blogs and the Democratic Convention, >> featuring me, that ran on Boston's FOX 25 last night: > > you did a great job. Thanks! > i especially loved the last line about videoblogging being unfiltered. Yeah, that was a good one. > youre becoming a bonafide "videoblogging expert". > have you gotten much response from it? My friends and family loved it! > people who want to know how to videoblog? > not yet. > what are you planning for the DNC? > I've got plans. Secret plans. ;-) I've actually contacted a number of local writers and comedians who might work with me each day on a different piece. I was planning on going to the sam adams brewery to a delegate party, but it was canceled and i'm not happy about that. > > -- > Jay Dedman > Manhattan Neighborhood Network > 537 West 59th > NY NY 10019 > 212 757 2670 ext.312 > http://www.mnn.org > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Deirdre Straughan, class of 81 | "Deirdre Straughan, class of 81" <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
July 23, 2004 | Post #388 | Topic #373

So did you get the credential? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield OLD <steve@o...> wrote: > Here's a report on blogs, video blogs and the Democratic Convention, > featuring me, that ran on Boston's FOX 25 last night: > > http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2004/07/me_on_fox_25.html > > --Steve > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- > If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a > phone call. > > It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
July 23, 2004 | Post #394 | Topic #373

No, I didn't get credentials. But I'm planning to cover things outside the convention area. I hope I get some interesting things. On Jul 23, 2004, at 3:01 AM, Deirdre Straughan, class of 81 wrote: > > So did you get the credential? > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield OLD <steve@o...> > wrote: >> Here's a report on blogs, video blogs and the Democratic Convention, >> featuring me, that ran on Boston's FOX 25 last night: >> >> http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2004/07/me_on_fox_25.html >> >> --Steve >> >> --------- [ Please Note ] --------- >> If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me >> a >> phone call. >> >> It's not you, it's them! > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: FOX 25 Boston report on video blogs

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
August 3, 2004 | Post #531 | Topic #373

--B_3174388455_1219758 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Interesting idea. Don=B9t know if it would work for me. http://www.vblogc= entral.com/ .shannon --B_3174388455_1219758 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] Re: FOX 25 Boston report on video = blogs</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">Interesting idea. Don&#= 8217;t know if it would work for me.<BR> <BR> <BR> http://www.vblogcentral.= com/<BR> <BR> <BR> .shannon</FONT> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3174388455_1219758-- [View]



Vblog Central

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
August 3, 2004 | Post #532 | Topic #373

--B_3174388935_1270060 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about the wrong subject header on that last post. I=B9ve been staring= at the computer monitor too much today. Let me try again. http://www.v= blogcentral.com/ I imagine we will see a lot of this thing starting to po= p up. And there will be other possibilities unimagined at the moment. I jus= t noticed a blurb in an online pub somewhere that protesters at the Democra= ctic National Convention were able to sign up for a cellphone service that = allowed them to create a private text messaging ring so that communication = between key people within the group could be expedited and it seemed to avo= id monitoring by the police as well. I imagine such things could apply to v= ideo from cellphones as well for some degree of usage. --B_3174388935_1270060 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Vblog Central</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Ver= dana">Sorry about the wrong subject header on that last post. I’ve be= en staring at the computer monitor too much today.<BR> <BR> Let me try agai= n. <BR> <BR> <BR> http://www.vblogcentral.com/<BR&gt; <BR> <BR> I imagine we w= ill see a lot of this thing starting to pop up. And there will be other pos= sibilities unimagined at the moment. I just noticed a blurb in an online pu= b somewhere that protesters at the Democractic National Convention were abl= e to sign up for a cellphone service... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
August 3, 2004 | Post #534 | Topic #373

sean milligan is the creator of Vblogcentral. he is also a memeber of this group. Im sure he'd appreciate commenst, so what about this servcie is incomplete to you? in this alpha stage, he offers uploading and compression(?) and hosting. what do you need more in a videoblogging service? i can think of one: an editing tool. Quoting Shannon Noble <sn@...>: > Sorry about the wrong subject header on that last post. I�ve been staring at > the computer monitor too much today. > > Let me try again. > > > http://www.vblogcentral.com/ > > > I imagine we will see a lot of this thing starting to pop up. And there will > be other possibilities unimagined at the moment. I just noticed a blurb in > an online pub somewhere that protesters at the Democractic National > Convention were able to sign up for a cellphone service that allowed them to > create a private text messaging ring so that communication between key > people within the group could be expedited and it seemed to avoid monitoring > by the police as well. I imagine such things could apply to video from > cellphones as well for some degree of usage. > -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
August 3, 2004 | Post #535 | Topic #373

--B_3174393851_1555832 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Its more like its too soon to tell if I=B9d utilize something like this. It= would certainly makes things easier in some parts of my life but I=B9m not= sure if I=B9d want to increase my costs. The technical always involve some= extra cost initiative, and rightly so, but how long and how far do I go to= sustain it? I don=B9t know. I know what my wife would say. It certainly se= ems to address and solve part of the issue of dealing with multiple platfor= ms and users. Web based editing is definitely a plus for doing simple thing= s. How much control and access would I have to my own material and do I lik= e the =B3streaming=B2 way of showing my stuff? Not sure. One thing I notic= ed on the sight was that when I went to view a number of the vBlog list of = those using the service so far that there were a number of these messages = =B3The movie specified cannot be found.=B2 shannon On 8/3/04 3:41 PM, "= Jay Dedman" <jay@...> wrote: > sean milligan is the creator of Vblogce= ntral. > he is also a memeber of this group. > Im sure he'd appreciate comm= enst, so what about this servcie is incomplete to > you? > in this alpha st= age, he offers uploading and compression(?) and hosting. > what do you... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 3, 2004 | Post #538 | Topic #373

Hello Shannon, Jay, et. al., vBlog Central is not quite alpha yet. Yancy Lind [http://yancysvblog.blogspot.com], who has been helping us with pre-alpha testing (among other things), sent e-mail to this list and managed to get our site noticed a little before we were ready. (I'm not complaining, Yancy...) We are updating the servers this week (in fact there may be some down time in the next few hours) and will create accounts for the first alpha testers any day now. We will start out with a small number of testers and then add more as we get more comfortable. We will be giving priority to people who have contributed to this list. The service will be free for alpha testers, but we will need to limit storage and bandwidth usage. We have not finalized a pricing model, but we are investigating several options. We'll be soliciting input on pricing on our site in the near future. I don't want to "promote" what we are doing on this list, but I will answer any questions/issues that are brought up. Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions, issues, or suggestions. So, to answer Jay and Shannon's questions: >How much control and access would I have to my own material We do not plan on placing any limits on control and/or access for paying customers (or alpha testers). We have talked about free, advertising-supported plans, but figure most folks on this... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
August 4, 2004 | Post #539 | Topic #373

sorry, sean always bad with names. gilligan. Sean is the first to actually try to put together a host specifically for videoblogs...so big up. im going to be an alpha tester to see what works. id like to heqar what eevryone else thinks about ads. would you pay 10$ per month for no ads....that offered a web-based editor, compressor and post? or pay nothing and allow ads to be put before your videos? Quoting "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...>: > Hello Shannon, Jay, et. al., > > vBlog Central is not quite alpha yet. Yancy Lind > [http://yancysvblog.blogspot.com], who has been helping us with pre-alpha > testing (among other things), sent e-mail to this list and managed to get > our site noticed a little before we were ready. (I'm not complaining, > Yancy...) > > We are updating the servers this week (in fact there may be some down time in > the next few hours) and will create accounts for the first alpha testers any > day now. We will start out with a small number of testers and then add more > as we get more comfortable. We will be giving priority to people who have > contributed to this list. > > The service will be free for alpha testers, but we will need to limit storage > and bandwidth usage. We have not finalized a pricing model, but we are > investigating several options. We'll be... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 4, 2004 | Post #542 | Topic #373

On 04/08/2004, at 12:07 PM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > vBlog Central is built using a media server that Catalla has spent 5 > years developing. The underlying technology supports both "true > streaming" (such as rtsp) and "psuedo-streaming" (http) and is > configurable on a per-movie basis as to which "delivery method" is > used. For the vBlog Central alpha, we have (somewhat arbitrarily) > configured the system to use HTTP for Windows and Real, but RTSP > ("true streaming") for QuickTime. This is one area where we are > looking for feedback. There are pros and cons to each method (I could > start a thread on this list with a list of pros and cons...) >> >> definitely need progressive streaming for QT. :-) wouldn't consider it otherwise. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Vblog Central

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 4, 2004 | Post #543 | Topic #373

On 04/08/2004, at 12:07 PM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > Yes, you upload a "master" movie and we compress to multiple formats > on the server. Once the compression is finished an entry is made in > your existing blog (using XML-RPC) and the video can be played in > multiple formats. is the compression customisable by the user? multiple format is ok but relies on a very limited notion of delivery. it assumes that we're putting up simple video (sound + image track). It would be good to use a service like this for interactive work in QT (for example) where qt is the only outcome but where compression will not break things like sprite tracks and so on. > >> what do you need more in a videoblogging service? >> i can think of one: >> an editing tool. > > Jay has explained to me why he thinks this is important and we are > considering it for a future release. I'd love any other feedback > about needs for this feature. > capture, set in and out point. add credit sequence. post to blog (which could compress at same time or compresses then connects to server). allows standard entry of stuff into yor blog template. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Central

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 5, 2004 | Post #552 | Topic #373

> >definitely need progressive streaming for QT. :-) wouldn't consider it >otherwise. I think vBlog Central is going to make progressive/psuedo/HTTP streaming the default as most vbloggers (at least the ones I've asked) seem to prefer that method. (My threats about starting a pro/con discussion on this list are not idle, but I'd like to start the discussion with a sincere attempt at covering all the pros/cons that I already know about, thus it will have to wait...) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Sean Gilligan : 831-466-9788 x11 Catalla Systems, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Central

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 5, 2004 | Post #553 | Topic #373

In response to Adrian Miles: >On 04/08/2004, at 12:07 PM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > >> Yes, you upload a "master" movie and we compress to multiple formats >> on the server. Once the compression is finished an entry is made in >> your existing blog (using XML-RPC) and the video can be played in >> multiple formats. > >is the compression customisable by the user? Compression is very customizable and configurable in the Catalla.Host product that vBlog Central is based on. In vBlog Central, we have tried hide this complexity, but I'm thinking we'll need an advanced option to re-enable it. > multiple format is ok but >relies on a very limited notion of delivery. it assumes that we're >putting up simple video (sound + image track). Like your very interesting Rule of Thirds post, for example. [IIRC, I once took a QT instructional video with multiple tracks (audio, video, background, text, image, and chapter) and replaced the audio and video tracks with streaming tracks. This allowed the user to select a chapter from the chapter list and skip to it without waiting for the full, 1-hour presentation to download. I was able to do this with "only" QT Pro.] > It would be good to use >a service like this for interactive work in QT (for example) where qt >is the only outcome but where compression will not break things like >sprite tracks and so on. Sounds like... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Central

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 7, 2004 | Post #585 | Topic #373

On 05/08/2004, at 4:30 PM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > I think vBlog Central is going to make progressive/psuedo/HTTP > streaming the default as most vbloggers (at least the ones I've asked) > seem to prefer that method. yep. because we care about the aesthetics of the work we make, even when it's low bit rate. rtsp is as you know real time so 2 minutes of video of delivered for 2 minutes. if there's 50% packet loss then your video looks like crap and that's that. In my experience rtsp is only good for live events. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Central

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 10, 2004 | Post #652 | Topic #373

On 05/08/2004, at 4:45 PM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > [IIRC, I once took a QT instructional video with multiple tracks > (audio, video, background, text, image, and chapter) and replaced the > audio and video tracks with streaming tracks. This allowed the user > to select a chapter from the chapter list and skip to it without > waiting for the full, 1-hour presentation to download. I was able to > do this with "only" QT Pro.] QT pro is the best video authoring tool under $40 out there. :-) I'd invite those on this list who might want to be a bit more playful (eg a movie over the top of a background photo) to have a look at: http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/desktopvogging/desktopvogging.html to see how to do it cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]