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imovie and blogs

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
June 16, 2004 | Post #38 | Topic #38

hi all just had a quick look again at iMovie. it already publishes directly to a .mac account so probably via WebDav or similar. This means it should be relatively easy for someone to write a small hack that lets you publish to any web server. these already exist for iphoto and ical. apart from this iMovie already meets all the requirements. you can also publish only a nominated clip, so could if you wished just capture and publish all from the one application. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: imovie and blogs

By Eric Rice | "Eric Rice" <eric@...> | audioblogdotcom
June 16, 2004 | Post #39 | Topic #38

Hi all, just a quick note about iMovie. With a .mac account, it takes as little as 7 clicks to publish a videoblog, and that's just recording only, no editing-- just talking-head stuff. I wanted to throw in there that even though there are plenty of debates about 'what' a videoblog should be, I'm glad to see people are going ahead and just tackling it anyway. Of and of course it's close to my heart, being in the audioblog space and all. Cheers! Eric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@r...> wrote: > hi all > > just had a quick look again at iMovie. it already publishes directly to > a .mac account so probably via WebDav or similar. This means it should > be relatively easy for someone to write a small hack that lets you > publish to any web server. these already exist for iphoto and ical. > > apart from this iMovie already meets all the requirements. you can also > publish only a nominated clip, so could if you wished just capture and > publish all from the one application. > > > cheers > Adrian Miles > ................................................................. > hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian > interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog > research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: imovie and blogs

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 17, 2004 | Post #40 | Topic #38

> Hi all, just a quick note about iMovie. With a .mac account, it takes as > little as 7 clicks to > publish a videoblog, and that's just recording only, no editing-- just > talking-head stuff. Okay, Eric, can you list these seven steps? What about compression? Quicktime is pretty clunky. You got to get these video files SMALL if you want to have any kind of blog with updated videos. Ive found that Sorenson is the best game in town for small size and pretty decent quality. Steve (http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/) puts out great looking videos, but they're huge. 10MB+. imagine trying to do that daily. But again, this is how I see videoblogging. daily videos. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: imovie and blogs

By Eric Rice | "Eric Rice" <eric@...> | audioblogdotcom
June 17, 2004 | Post #41 | Topic #38

Well, like i noted before, it's talking head stuff, but here is how it went for me tonight: 1. click imovie on the dock 2. clicked the camera icon (it was on edit) 3. click record (and action!) 4. click stop 5. File > Share 6. Click Homepage icon 7. when taken to .Mac, click template 8. Click publish Your mileage may vary, obviously, given things like being logged in to .mac or not, if you previously had a project open in iMovie or not, but those are the basic steps. The thing with video which makes me nervous putting the *blog at the end of it, is that it is much more dynamic than audio or text. Non-linear and such. So obviously, there are plenty of clicks involved. In my example, the quality was less than perfect and the video was small, and that opens a whole new can of worms (probably the biggest) as far as video *anything* is concerned. The other unfair advantage here, is how iMovie and the other iLife apps integrate and connect to a central place. Life isn't this easy for most of the world, unfortunately. I, too, would love to see it publish to someplace other than the .Mac account. E --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay Dedman <jay@m...> wrote: > > > Hi all, just a quick note about iMovie. With a .mac account, it takes as > > little as 7 clicks to... [View]



Re: imovie and blogs

By David Wolf | "David Wolf" <dpwolf@...> | dpwolf3000
June 17, 2004 | Post #42 | Topic #38

Hello all, I just tested out the iMovie share to homepage option. It is very quick and easy but has no options for changing the compression settings. I guess this is both a strength and a weakness. It gives you 12fps, 240 x 180 in the H.263 codec. Once iMovie has finished compressing the file and copying it to the iDisk, the .mac homepage configuration website is automatically launched and templates for page layout (all fairly cheesy) are presented. Check out the results: http://homepage.mac.com/dpwolf/ Like Adrian said, with a bit of hacking I'm sure someone could make iMovie put the movie file on another server. It would also be cool if it could launch another content management config page, say in Moveable Type, complete with embed tags etc. David Wolf dpwolf@... http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@r...> wrote: > hi all > > just had a quick look again at iMovie. it already publishes directly to > a .mac account so probably via WebDav or similar. This means it should > be relatively easy for someone to write a small hack that lets you > publish to any web server. these already exist for iphoto and ical. > > apart from this iMovie already meets all the requirements. you can also > publish only a nominated clip, so could if you wished just capture and > publish all from the one application. > > > cheers > Adrian Miles... [View]



Process

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 17, 2004 | Post #43 | Topic #38

I just added a videoblog entry, http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/003029.html Here's the process I used for this one: start counting 1. film with my small digital photocamera. (1 minute) 2. take out memory card, plug in computer, put movie on computer (1 minute) 3. preview: no editing needed. 4. optimize (using Vgas. Overkill, but I lost my Sorenson trial and haven't found another good way of optimizing. Tips?) 5. reoptimize with different settings. Looks ok now. 188K 6. 7 minutes passed so far 7. upload to MT 8. enter embedding code (had to go look it up) The whole thing took 10 minutes. Should be able to shave half of that off, especially the optimizing bit and the embedding code bit. Cheers! Peter [View]



Process

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 17, 2004 | Post #43 | Topic #38

I just added a videoblog entry, http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/003029.html Here's the process I used for this one: start counting 1. film with my small digital photocamera. (1 minute) 2. take out memory card, plug in computer, put movie on computer (1 minute) 3. preview: no editing needed. 4. optimize (using Vgas. Overkill, but I lost my Sorenson trial and haven't found another good way of optimizing. Tips?) 5. reoptimize with different settings. Looks ok now. 188K 6. 7 minutes passed so far 7. upload to MT 8. enter embedding code (had to go look it up) The whole thing took 10 minutes. Should be able to shave half of that off, especially the optimizing bit and the embedding code bit. Cheers! Peter [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Process

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
June 17, 2004 | Post #44 | Topic #38

On 18/06/2004, at 10:46 AM, PeterV wrote: > 1. film with my small digital photocamera. (1 minute) > 2. take out memory card, plug in computer, put movie on computer (1 > minute) > 3. preview: no editing needed. > 4. optimize (using Vgas. Overkill, but I lost my Sorenson trial and > haven't found another good way of optimizing. Tips?) > 5. reoptimize with different settings. Looks ok now. 188K > 6. 7 minutes passed so far > 7. upload to MT i'd recommend ecto at this point which has QT support. removes step 8 :-) > 8. enter embedding code (had to go look it up) > > The whole thing took 10 minutes. Should be able to shave half of that > off, especially the optimizing bit and the embedding code bit. in terms of codecs and picking up an earlier question about standards. i use QT for everything because i do interactive work and it is the best architecture (daylight to the next one). These days for generic non interactive QT i use MPEG4 as per Apples implementation. the codec isn't great but it is compliant to ISMA specifications which means any mpeg4 compliant client can view it, anywhere. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



RE: [videoblogging] Process

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 17, 2004 | Post #45 | Topic #38

I posted another one :) http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/003030.html The process was simpler with this one, I had the embedding code ready to copy and paste. Feedback on the videolanguage is also always welcome! Just playing around. Peter [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Process

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
June 17, 2004 | Post #46 | Topic #38

On 18/06/2004, at 12:12 PM, PeterV wrote: > Feedback on the videolanguage is also always welcome! Just playing > around. not sure what you mean by videolanguage :-) what is important in blogs is that a) a post can stand alone but b) it is also a serial form of production so i figure vogs need the same structure. each one standsalone but there needs to be a serial structure as well. since a few people here are interestd in regular blogging, eg daily, perhaps we could propose an experiment where those interested agree to videoblog one clip per day for a week? just to see what's involved and what is made/happens? what do people reckon? (having said that i'm in switzerland next week and will be filming but network access won't be happening for a lot of it!) cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: imovie and blogs

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
June 17, 2004 | Post #47 | Topic #38

On 17/06/2004, at 3:03 PM, Jay Dedman wrote: > Okay, Eric, can you list these seven steps? > What about compression? Quicktime is pretty clunky. > You got to get these video files SMALL if you want to have any kind of > blog > with updated videos. > Ive found that Sorenson is the best game in town for small size and > pretty > decent quality. this varies, Sorenson 3 is excellent but tends to be very cpu intensive and compression is of course slow. These days I'm relying a lot on apples mpeg4 because it is quite good, but also because it is ISMA compliant and helps get round some of the standards wars that could threaten videoblogging. also makes it trivial to pump out material for a mobile phone, a streaming server, and for progressive as they are all mpeg4 standards and all available within quicktime pro. i used to use Cleaner all the time. but it is expensive and apart from some fancier stuff i like the production flow: shoot, capture, export, publish. less tools in there the better. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



so where are we?

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 18, 2004 | Post #48 | Topic #38

Peter, okay, so we know we can post video in our blogs. its kind of clunky but it can happen. for me, the whole process really hinders the intuitive flow of text blogging. and we still havent figured out the problem of storage and bandwidth. i hear about "bit torrent" but where's the beef? am i crazy to want a videoblogging tool that does it all for me? so i can focus on the moment I capture or movie I create. one for windows, one for macs. just like everything else. Posting the video should be zero thought and effort. anyway, I like Adrian's idea: let's videoblog. starting Sunday, I'm going to post a video a day. http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ subscribe to me in Bloglines or whatever. who else is in? let's see if any of this conversation is even worth. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]



Re: so where are we?

By Eric Rice | "Eric Rice" <eric@...> | audioblogdotcom
June 18, 2004 | Post #49 | Topic #38

Okay, you're killin' me, but I'll do it for a week. :-) Side note: I used a program called PageOT (mac os x) which allows you to playlist QT movies and generate the appropriate code so you have one continuous movie. An old example here: http://www.ericrice.com/media/video20030801.htm E --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay Dedman <jay@m...> wrote: > Peter, > > okay, so we know we can post video in our blogs. > its kind of clunky but it can happen. > for me, the whole process really hinders the intuitive flow of text > blogging. > and we still havent figured out the problem of storage and bandwidth. > i hear about "bit torrent" but where's the beef? > > am i crazy to want a videoblogging tool that does it all for me? > so i can focus on the moment I capture or movie I create. > one for windows, one for macs. > just like everything else. > Posting the video should be zero thought and effort. > > anyway, I like Adrian's idea: let's videoblog. > starting Sunday, I'm going to post a video a day. > http://momentshowing.typepad.com/momentshowing/ > subscribe to me in Bloglines or whatever. > who else is in? > let's see if any of this conversation is even worth. > > -- > Jay Dedman > Manhattan Neighborhood Network > 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) > NY NY 10019 > http://www.mnn.org >... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] so where are we?

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
June 18, 2004 | Post #50 | Topic #38

Hi Jay, I took a look at your video blog. Why did you decide to make the video post start playing video right away inside the post? This is the first way I started posting videos on my TypePad blog too. I also made it have one post per page. It was easy for me that way. Load the video to my host, then paste in some standard QuickTime HTML and voila, a video blog post. But, I was unhappy with the one page per post format, and didn't like the fact that every single time anyone went to that post, the video would play. It was a pain because sometimes I would click back to my own post and didn't want to see the video, yet another time. ( and use the bandwidth ) That's why I switched to having the video sit on an HTML page of it's own. Even though I have a template HTML page that I use, I'd prefer to have my weblogging tool grab my HTML template and edit the .mov filename. Further, I'd like the tool to be able to upload the new HTML file and my pre-compressed video up to my host via FTP. I worked on a project before where something like this was done with a UNIX command line on the Mac. I bet it would be easy for someone to write up an Applescript to do it. I could... [View]



Re: so where are we?

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 18, 2004 | Post #51 | Topic #38

> Okay, you're killin' me, but I'll do it for a week. :-) I'm in for a week as well. Sunday to Sunday. Let's find out if daily videoblogging is doable/practical/interesting. I do plan to do more videoblogging this summer when I'm going traveling as well. Peter [View]



Re: so where are we?

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 18, 2004 | Post #52 | Topic #38

> Why did you decide to make the video post start playing video right > away inside the post? I have the videos in the post, but they only start playing once you click play. However, they do download everytime someone views the page (bandwidth!), even when they don't click play. Is there a way around that without having a viewer go to a separate page? Peter [View]