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RSS, enclosures, SMIL?

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 18, 2004 | Post #57 | Topic #57

It'd be cool to have a central feed of the videos and text of the videoblogging week starting Sunday. There are various options: - SMIL: can display text and video together, realplayer plays it. - combined RSS with plain links to video - RSS with enclosures to make Adam Curry happy ;) Anyone wants to take this on? It would be ideal to automate this central feed, but that might also be too much work. It'd also be a good experiment with the pros and cons of various types of feeds... I might have time to create a SMIL thing... By the way, what formats are people planning to use? I'll probably do Quicktime. Comments? Peter [View]



Re: RSS, enclosures, SMIL?

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <videoblog@...> | andreashaugstrup
June 18, 2004 | Post #58 | Topic #57

> Anyone wants to take this on? It would be ideal to automate this > central feed, but that might also be too much work. It'd also be a > good experiment with the pros and cons of various types of feeds... I've been busy thinking about SVG and not videoblogging, but... If everyone has either a SMIL template or an RSS (2.0 only, please) I can parse for timestamp and links I can make a script that creates a xhtml list and a central RSS feed. I have time to get this done Sunday before the American get out of bed. :o) Just send me a link to your RSS feed (with only the videoblog week entries) or SMIL file before 8am CET Sunday (that's... 2am Eastern Time). Disclaimer: I have no idea what a SMIL file looks like, but if it has a link and a timestamp it can't be too hard. :o) - Andreas -- Personal: <http://www.solitude.dk&gt; File Thingie - PHP File Manager <http://www.solitude.dk/filethingie/&gt; [View]



Re: RSS, enclosures, SMIL?

By petertheman | "petertheman" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 18, 2004 | Post #59 | Topic #57

> Disclaimer: I have no idea what a SMIL file looks like It's pretty simple. http://demandmedia.net/, at the right, check out the "playlist" link. That's a SMIL file. I pasted the code below: <smil> <head> <layout> <meta name="base" content="http://demandmedia.net/text/"/&gt; <root-layout background-color="black" width="320" height="320"/> <region id="info" top="0" left="0" height="80"/> <region id="vid" top="80" left="0" fit="fill"/> </layout> </head> <body> <seq> <par dur="0:02"> <img region="vid" src="http://demandmedia.net/images/demandmedia- rt.gif"/> <text region="info" src="http://demandmedia.net/images/demandmedia.rt"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/2/16/154025/273"/> <video region="vid" src="http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/janitors.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/8/4/162645/3047"/> <video region="vid" src="rtsp://152.3.208.146:554/publicdomain/public%20domain%20panel% 205.rm"/> </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2002/11/27/231319/16"/> <video region="vid" src="http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/evanaccrc.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2004/1/29/125834/269"/> <video region="vid" src="http://images.indymedia.org/imc/nyc/dougrokkeondu28k.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/7/1/162925/3391"/> <video region="vid" src="http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/afghanistan.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2004/4/19/225849/370"/> <video region="vid" src="http://unreal.rit.edu/projects/events/gannett/2004-04-15.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/5/8/21050/15703"/> <video region="vid" src="rtsp://realmedia.freespeech.org/mediarights_unintended.rm/mediari ghts_unintended.rm"/> </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2002/12/30/105240/19"/> <video region="vid" src="http://crash.mi.cz/nepal/nepal_dsl_352x288.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/8/26/51420/3484"/> <video region="vid" src="rtsp://204.156.22.5:554/sinkers/2003/washdcAug2303.rm"/&gt; </par> <par endsync="last"> <text region="info" src="2003/6/19/72910/3167"/> <video region="vid" src="rtsp://realmedia.freespeech.org/murder_fred_hampton.rm/murder_fre d_hampton.rm"/> </par> </seq></body></smil> [View]



videoblog-a-day

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 19, 2004 | Post #60 | Topic #57

Okay, I need to give some perspective on this conversation. I am not a programmer though I love hearing about people coming up with solutions to technical problems. What I am good at is using available media tools and teaching them to other people(what i do for a living). Creativity is difficult enough without having to worry about the tools. I have a Typepad account that lets me blog. I can upload a video as a file. Then Peter wrote some code so I can link the video in my text blog. So Steve, you have two separate host accounts? one for your blog and the other for your video? a good work around that saves bandwidth, but sucks it cant be all in one. So starting this sunday, we start the "videoblog-a-day" week. Andreas says he'll try to do a feed of our blogs. We got three people signed up. Hope others join in. Keep it simple. Focus on yourself or the people around you. It's going to be cool to see who's out there. Then after the week's done, we can see about hacking some better tools togther. By the way, Drazen (and probably Kenyatta and Eli Chapman and ?)has come up with some new plans: http://www.open4all.info/wiki/drazen/P2P-TV http://www.open4all.info/wiki/drazen/Anybody_Can_be_TV These guys have some very progressive and aggressive ideas of how to send video around. I'd have to actually see it to understand it. Last year, I helped them do... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] videoblog-a-day

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
June 20, 2004 | Post #62 | Topic #57

Yes, I spread my videos around to different servers. I could put a video up on TypePad, but wouldn't want it to load each time the page is displayed. You could link to the video file itself, without any HTML code around it, but then you'd loose the ability to give the viewer information about the video, with links back to your site. That's what I don't want to have happen, people just linking to the .mov file and loosing all the information about me and the video. --Steve On Jun 19, 2004, at 2:18 AM, Jay Dedman wrote: > So Steve, you have two separate host accounts? > one for your blog and the other for your video? > a good work around that saves bandwidth, but sucks it cant be all in > one. --------- [ Please Note ] --------- If my email hosting service is rejecting your replies, please give me a phone call. It's not you, it's them! [View]



Videobloggingweek day 1

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 20, 2004 | Post #64 | Topic #57

We got our posts up. Goooood stuff dudes! I linked directly to the logo from here http://www.me-tv.org/wakka.php?wakka=VideoBloggingWeek Is that ok? I can copy it tomorrow, gotta eat now... P [View]



Types of entries

By PeterV | "PeterV" <peter@...> | petertheman
June 20, 2004 | Post #65 | Topic #57

I started a wiki page to capture the different types and classifications of videoblog entries.... As always, feel free to add or change! http://www.me-tv.org/wakka.php?wakka=TypesOfVideoBlogEntries Peter [View]



post Day 1 of videoblog week

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
June 21, 2004 | Post #66 | Topic #57

The videos look good. And thanks to andreas for making the link page. Peter and I walked around Central Park this afternoon, discussing all the boundaries of videoblogging. Then i see what people can do. I got a confession to make: Ive had a blog for awhile now and I just found out about "bookmarklets" today. Ive been posting by logging into Typepad and writing out each blog. Ridiculous. I'm going to post 5 times a day now. We need a videoblogging tool just as simple as a bookmarklet. Most people can't really edit video. Or know how to compress video. or write code for enclosures. You need a simple tool that people click and then walks them through the process. Like Peter says, videoblogging must "scale" and be accessible to everyone. I'm on the hunt for the most forward thinking programmer who can do open this door. See you tomorrow for day 2 of Videoblog Week. -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th (between 10th and 11th Ave) NY NY 10019 http://www.mnn.org 212 757 2670 [View]