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Another attempt

By Rob Wilks | "Rob Wilks" <rob@...> | exhibitqrob
August 10, 2004 | Post #647 | Topic #647

I had another attempt at vblogging again today, with more bloggy content i.e. I talked about my experiences on the tube this morning getting to work. You can see it here: http://www.robwilks.co.uk/blog/ I'm having a real issue with size. I originally recorded a 2:22 minute clip which was 7.66MB. I felt it was far too big to put on my blog; I did give it a go, but I panicked and got worried about bandwidth. I may be barking up the wrong tree, because bandwidth is actually dependent on the NUMBER of people who download/watch the clip in any given period, right? Plus, some people have said that I'm quite difficult to follow simply because the size of the screen is so small. However, when I go for a larger size, the quality gets distorted plus obviously the file size shoots up as well. Is there a way around this (apart from getting a new webcam!)? Hope you've all had a good day. Rob [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Alison Bryan | Alison Bryan <alison.bryan@...> | alisonbryanuk
August 10, 2004 | Post #648 | Topic #647

Just thinking - we need vcomments too! If vblogs are going to be visual, then the comment feature needs to be! Or am I dreaming 50 years from now? vspam would be a nightmare to manage. I will post a vblog entry next week, as I'm getting a broadband connection on Monday. This is probably off topic, but I wondered if wikis could ever be video enabled? Its unrealistic at the moment, but would it be technically possible. Could you get a wiki to recognise a video file, as opposed to some .exe file that contained a virus? Alison [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Shawn Van Every | Shawn Van Every <vanevery@...> | vanevery
August 10, 2004 | Post #649 | Topic #647

I like the vcomments idea. It is something that we have on the CoDECK but that has more of a physical manifestation than video blogs and it is made easier by the fact that we have a camera connected to it that allows the watcher to instantly comment on a piece. Of course, you can still upload a response video through the web but it is generally not done. Although I am dreaming at the moment: Thinking that the means for audience involvement and feedback is one of the driving forces of blogs in general, I think that comments are something that should be addressed in a rich manner as with the posting itself (via video). Technically, text comments seem to be the way to go for now... On Aug 10, 2004, at 7:14 PM, Alison Bryan wrote: > Just thinking - we need vcomments too! If vblogs are going to be > visual, then the comment feature needs to be! Or am I dreaming 50 > years from now? vspam would be a nightmare to manage. > > I will post a vblog entry next week, as I'm getting a broadband > connection on Monday. > > This is probably off topic, but I wondered if wikis could ever be > video enabled? Its unrealistic at the moment, but would it be > technically possible. Could you get a wiki to recognise a video file, > as opposed to... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 10, 2004 | Post #653 | Topic #647

On 11/08/2004, at 9:14 AM, Alison Bryan wrote: > Just thinking - we need vcomments too! If vblogs are going to be > visual, then the comment feature needs to be! Or am I dreaming 50 > years from now? vspam would be a nightmare to manage. what are you thinkin gof here? there are a couple of QT movie examples out there that let people write, there's even one that a Swedish company developed for a live concert which supported live chat (all done in QT). > > I will post a vblog entry next week, as I'm getting a broadband > connection on Monday. > > This is probably off topic, but I wondered if wikis could ever be > video enabled? Its unrealistic at the moment, but would it be > technically possible. Could you get a wiki to recognise a video file, > as opposed to some .exe file that contained a virus? you can usually embed html in wikis (or am I completely off beam there?) and so what beyond this are you dreaming up? sounds intriguing. :-) cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
August 10, 2004 | Post #654 | Topic #647

> I'm having a real issue with size. I originally recorded a 2:22 > minute clip which was 7.66MB. I felt it was far too big to put on > my blog; I did give it a go, but I panicked and got worried about > bandwidth. I may be barking up the wrong tree, because bandwidth is > actually dependent on the NUMBER of people who download/watch the > clip in any given period, right? Rob-- how are you editing these clips? the reason why the file is so big is because of compression. a 2-minute compressed video is usually about <2MB. Most editing software has compression built in. if not, you got to get compression software(which is different for Mac and PC). isnt this crazy? youre the perfect example of why we need an all-in-one videoblogging tool that edits, compresses and posts. we're working on this. so can you explain youre process, equipment, and software? be specific. we can get you posting a big picture-movie that's small in size. it'll just take some experimenting. (by the way, i have a fully loaded MAC and I cant view your video. does anyone know what player I need to watch Rob's video?) -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 10, 2004 | Post #655 | Topic #647

On 11/08/2004, at 8:45 AM, Rob Wilks wrote: > I may be barking up the wrong tree, because bandwidth is > actually dependent on the NUMBER of people who download/watch the > clip in any given period, right? yes. don't confuse it with how much server space you have. but do pay attention to what your isp allows. most have set bandwidth regimes, of x gig a month, and if your site attracts more than that many have *very* serious costs attached. cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Another attempt

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <videoblog@...> | andreashaugstrup
August 10, 2004 | Post #656 | Topic #647

> Just thinking - we need vcomments too! If vblogs are going to be > visual, then the comment feature needs to be! Or am I dreaming 50 > years from now? vspam would be a nightmare to manage. You can do this now, but the trick is not to use the 'comments' feature on weblogs, but to use the trackbacks and pingback feature. These are a whole lot more interesting than comment fields anyway. :o) Trackbacks and pingbacks is a simple message of letting someone know that you have posted on your weblog with a reference to someone else's post. For example when Rob posted his first sign language post I thought it was interesting so I created a post about it on my own weblog. When I posted my own blog I also sent a message to Rob's server saying 'hey, I'm talking about you'. Rob's server then put up a link to my entry along with an excerpt. You can see it by going to Rob's entry at <http://www.robwilks.com/blog/archive/000081.html&gt; and clicking the link named 'Trackbacks'. If I had decided to make a video as my own blog entry you would effectively have made a vcomment. That's the way to do it. It's simple and it works for any media - most weblog systems should actually send trackbacks automatically these days. - Andreas -- Personal: <http://www.solitude.dk&gt; File Thingie - PHP File Manager <http://www.solitude.dk/filethingie/&gt; [View]



Re: Another attempt

By Rob Wilks | "Rob Wilks" <rob@...> | exhibitqrob
August 11, 2004 | Post #659 | Topic #647

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay Dedman <jay@m...> wrote: > Rob-- = > how are you editing these clips? > the reason why the file is so big is b= ecause of compression. > a 2-minute compressed video is usually about <2MB.= > Most editing software has compression built in. > if not, you got to get= compression software(which is different for Mac and > PC). > so can you = explain youre process, equipment, and software? > be specific. > we can get= you posting a big picture-movie that's small in size. > it'll just take so= me experimenting. > > (by the way, i have a fully loaded MAC and I cant vi= ew your video. does > anyone know what player I need to watch Rob's video= ?) You should be able to see it in Windows Media Player. How am I doing t= hese clips? Well, I've got an old Logitech Webcam, and I've recently down= loaded Logitech ImageStudio (ImageStudio=AE v7.30 for QuickCam=AE). I jus= t record the clip in there, and it automatically saves as a .avi file. I = then upload to the website and link to it. That's it. Not terrible compl= icated! Rob [View]



Re: Another attempt

By Deirdre Straughan, class of 81 | "Deirdre Straughan, class of 81" <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 11, 2004 | Post #658 | Topic #647

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Alison Bryan <alison.bryan@g...> wrot= e: > Just thinking - we need vcomments too! If vblogs are going to be > vi= sual, then the comment feature needs to be! Or am I dreaming 50 > years fr= om now? vspam would be a nightmare to manage. There was an article just y= esterday, ZDNet I think, about VOIP spam. I guess if someone stuck an ad in= as their comment, that would be spam. Message spam occurs in newsgroups, I= saw a rather scary sign on another Yahoo group that someone has found a wa= y to automate it, posting ads that appear to be related to the subject of a= recently-posted message. best regards, Deirdr=E9 Straughan http://www.= straughan.com [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Another attempt

By Jay Dedman | Jay Dedman <jay@...> |
August 11, 2004 | Post #660 | Topic #647

> How am I doing these clips? Well, I've got an old Logitech Webcam, > and I've recently downloaded Logitech ImageStudio (ImageStudio� > v7.30 for QuickCam�). I just record the clip in there, and it > automatically saves as a .avi file. I then upload to the website > and link to it. Okay, im glad it sounds like you have an easy system. but you need to compress thye video somehow. I use IMOVIE in Mac which compresses the video for me. anyone have any recomendations for rob and his PC? maybe Windows Movie Maker? -- Jay Dedman Manhattan Neighborhood Network 537 West 59th NY NY 10019 212 757 2670 ext.312 http://www.mnn.org [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Another attempt

By Andreas Haugstrup | "Andreas Haugstrup" <videoblog@...> | andreashaugstrup
August 11, 2004 | Post #661 | Topic #647

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:08:22 -0500, Jay Dedman <jay@...> wrote: >> How am I doing these clips? Well, I've got an old Logitech Webcam, >> and I've recently downloaded Logitech ImageStudio (ImageStudio� >> v7.30 for QuickCam�). I just record the clip in there, and it >> automatically saves as a .avi file. I then upload to the website >> and link to it. > > Okay, im glad it sounds like you have an easy system. > but you need to compress thye video somehow. > I use IMOVIE in Mac which compresses the video for me. > anyone have any recomendations for rob and his PC? > > maybe Windows Movie Maker? You bet. Rob and I have the exact same setup. I too use a Logitech webcam with ImageStudio. What you can do, Rob, is to import your avi into Movie Maker and export to a wmv file from there. You can check out the process in more detail at: <http://videoblogging.info/articles/howto-win/&gt; - Andreas -- Personal: <http://www.solitude.dk&gt; File Thingie - PHP File Manager <http://www.solitude.dk/filethingie/&gt; [View]