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New Post: Terror Free

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
August 12, 2004 | Post #667 | Topic #667

Hi, I took one of the pieces I did for the DNC and expanded it after seeing more news about terror and terror alerts. The Statue of Liberty Gang promotes being Terror Free. I posted this one on my vSpan test blog: http://vspan.blogspot.com/ --Steve --------- [ Web Sites ] --------- Steve Garfield Video Production http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ Weblog: Off On A Tangent http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ [View]



Re: New Post: Terror Free

By contactmica | "contactmica" <contactmica@...> | contactmica
August 12, 2004 | Post #668 | Topic #667

so what program/compression situation is it that you are using to post the video there? i think its the same one that jay used to post today? i comes up funky on my computer -the images is watery and low res and doesnt play while its loading. also doesnt allow me to use the playerbar to watch part of it over again - its like it has to reload everytime i move it? weird. i want to try something diffrent to make my videos open quicker. i dont yet understand what will work best. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o...> wrote: > Hi, > I took one of the pieces I did for the DNC and expanded it after seeing > more news about terror and terror alerts. > > The Statue of Liberty Gang promotes being Terror Free. > > I posted this one on my vSpan test blog: > > http://vspan.blogspot.com/ > > --Steve > [View]



[videoblogging] Re: New Post: Terror Free

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 12, 2004 | Post #669 | Topic #667

Hi Mica, >so what program/compression situation is it that you are using >to post the video there? He's using the vBlog Central alpha-test version. > i think its the same one that jay used to >post today? Yes. > i comes up funky on my computer -the images is >watery and low res and doesnt play while its loading. Hmm. I'm guessing you're playing back with QuickTime. The current compression settings for vBlog Central are not producing the quality of QuickTime we would like, and we will be updating them shortly. (There is a tradeoff between visual quality and bandwidth and I think we erred on the side of reducing bandwidth utilization too much.) We also have QuickTime currently set to use a "true streaming" format so that may explain why the playerbar behaves differently than what you expected. We will be changing the QuickTime setting to use "progressive download" as our Real and Windows Media settings currently do. There are many applications where "true streaming" is preferred, but given the feedback I've gotten from folks on this list, vblogging is not one of them. > also >doesnt allow me to use the playerbar to watch part of it over >again - You should be able to do this with a streaming movie. In face, one of the advantages of true streaming for long movies is that you can skip ahead into a long movie before that part would have... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: New Post: Terror Free

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
August 12, 2004 | Post #670 | Topic #667

On Aug 12, 2004, at 4:35 PM, contactmica wrote: > so what program/compression situation is it that you are using > to post the video there? I used Sorenson on the FCP export and then the vBlog hosting software makes a version for QT, Real and Windows Media. --Steve --------- [ Web Sites ] --------- Steve Garfield Video Production http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ Weblog: Off On A Tangent http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] New Post: Terror Free

By Christopher Weagel | Christopher Weagel <humandog@...> | ronnalddd
August 12, 2004 | Post #671 | Topic #667

--Apple-Mail-1-227442954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Good post, steve. Nice music. I watched the QT on a cable modem and experi= enced a jumpy download. Sometimes it downloaded at a steady pace, but then = would stop,for sometimes up to 30 seconds, then start up again, slowly, th= en jumping ahead again. Chris On Aug 12, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Steve Garfiel= d wrote: > Hi, > I took one of the pieces I did for the DNC and expanded = it after > seeing > more news about terror and terror alerts. > > The St= atue of Liberty Gang promotes being Terror Free. > > I posted this one on = my vSpan test blog: > > http://vspan.blogspot.com/ > > --Steve > --------= -=A0 [ Web Sites ]=A0 --------- > Steve Garfield Video Production > http:/= /stevegarfield.com > > Video Blog > http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videobl= og/ > > Weblog: Off On A Tangent > http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ > > = > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <yhoo0504_testa_300250a0526= 04.gif> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > =95 To visit your group on = the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ > =A0 > =95= To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > videoblogging-unsubs= cribe@yahoogroups.com > =A0 > =95 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject t= o the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > --Apple-Mail-1-227442954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Good post, steve. Nice... [View]



vBlog Alpha tests

By contactmica | "contactmica" <contactmica@...> | contactmica
August 13, 2004 | Post #673 | Topic #667

Thanks for all the feedback on this subject. having the exeperience of using/seeing these formats and getting the explanations at the same time is very helpfulto me - getting a better understanding, hopfullt will help me improve on my work. a question- i selected a download option once for the 'alpha's' but it no lognger asks me if i can get the option to come up up ill try each to see the difference. i am yes, using Quicktime ( I really love QT) but-get this, my work computers arent even on OXS!!! (im in the tricky process of negtotiating major upgrades($) with my boss) I will experiment with QT pteferences on my laptop and report back. Keep up all the kick ass work m ---- Hello? a videoblog studio http://publicaddress.typepad.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@m...> wrote: > Hi Mica, > > >so what program/compression situation is it that you are using > >to post the video there? > > He's using the vBlog Central alpha-test version. > > Hmm. I'm guessing you're playing back with QuickTime. The current compression settings for vBlog Central are not producing the quality of QuickTime we would like, and we will be updating them shortly. (There is a tradeoff between visual quality and bandwidth and I think we erred on the side of reducing bandwidth utilization too much.) > > We also have QuickTime currently set to use a "true streaming" format... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Alpha tests

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 13, 2004 | Post #674 | Topic #667

Another vBlog issue: entries don't have URLs. The HTML has a URL, but the video URL is obscured and is a one-use thing designed to prevent linking. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] vBlog Alpha tests

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 13, 2004 | Post #676 | Topic #667

>a question- i selected a download option once >for the 'alpha's' but it no lognger asks me >if i can get the option to come up up ill try each >to see the difference. The first time you view a video you must select a player. After that your choice is stored in a cookie, but there should be a "Select Player" link below the video that allows you to change your settings. > >i am yes, using Quicktime ( I really love QT) BTW, it seems that iTunes has given QT a big boost in installed base, which is good for videobloggers who are posting in QT only. >but-get this, my work computers arent even on OXS!!! I think the same (instant on) setting should exist in QT 6.0.3 (the latest version available for OS 8/9, see http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/version.html) -- Sean -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Sean Gilligan : 831-466-9788 x11 Catalla Systems, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] video permalinks (was vBlog Alpha tests)

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 13, 2004 | Post #678 | Topic #667

>Another vBlog issue: entries don't have URLs. The HTML has a URL, but the >video URL is obscured and is a one-use thing designed to prevent linking. > We have several methods of providing permalink URLs under investigation. I also know there has been some discussion on this list (and elsewhere) about how best to do this. Since vBlog Central allows you to post in multiple formats/speeds, a permalink mechanism should allow for the user (or an app they run) to choose a format that they can actually play. Another issue is that some vbloggers may only want the video to be viewable with the text from their post and others won't mind the video being deep-linked. We think the videoblogging community would be best served by a standard mechanism for doing this within the context of RSS and/or Atom. Can anyone provide links to any existing work in this area? -- Sean -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Sean Gilligan : 831-466-9788 x11 Catalla Systems, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View]



Re: [videoblogging] video permalinks (was vBlog Alpha tests)

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 13, 2004 | Post #680 | Topic #667

>> Another vBlog issue: entries don't have URLs. The HTML has a URL, but the >> video URL is obscured and is a one-use thing designed to prevent linking. On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > Since vBlog Central allows you to post in multiple formats/speeds, a > permalink mechanism should allow for the user (or an app they run) to > choose a format that they can actually play. For the most part the HTTP accept header is the place for this, however there will be situations when a client needs a format-specific URL. > Another issue is that some > vbloggers may only want the video to be viewable with the text from > their post and others won't mind the video being deep-linked. Agreed. > We think the videoblogging community would be best served by a standard > mechanism for doing this within the context of RSS and/or Atom. Can > anyone provide links to any existing work in this area? Well, in most ways *we* are the standardizing force for web multimedia. It's up to us to figure out what we need from an application perspective, then dig into the standards to figure out how to apply them. Can you talk a bit more about what functionality you're looking for from RSS and/or Atom, Sean? My guess is that you're thinking about the method of pointing to videoblog media in an entry element,... [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: New Post: Terror Free

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 15, 2004 | Post #693 | Topic #667

On 13/08/2004, at 7:10 AM, M. Sean Gilligan wrote: > We also have QuickTime currently set to use a "true streaming" format > so that may explain why the playerbar behaves differently than what > you expected. We will be changing the QuickTime setting to use > "progressive download" as our Real and Windows Media settings > currently do. There are many applications where "true streaming" is > preferred, but given the feedback I've gotten from folks on this list, > vblogging is not one of them. i'd suggest real time streaming is good for long events, for LANs where you can control or expect 'controllable' bandwidth, or for very very long content. the problem? it only sends for the duration of the piece of if there is 50% packet loss then you've lost that data to the client. For work where aesthetics counts, that's a big problem. for long work I'd probably do something like chunking it into sections (much like DVD chapters) so if someone wanted a particular section you could go to that section. For on demand specific sections (from 1hr 2min to 1 hr 4min 23 sec. 20 frames) RTSP is the only way to go, but you really want a ton of bandwidth overhead.... cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] video permalinks (was vBlog Alpha tests)

By M. Sean Gilligan | "M. Sean Gilligan" <seanlist@...> | M_Sean_Gilligan
August 17, 2004 | Post #714 | Topic #667

Sean Gilligan wrote: > > We think the videoblogging community would be best served by a standard > > mechanism for [providing links directly to the video media] within the context of RSS and/or Atom. Can > > anyone provide links to any existing work in this area? At 2:50 PM -0400 8/13/04, Lucas Gonze wrote: > >Well, in most ways *we* are the standardizing force for web multimedia. >It's up to us to figure out what we need from an application perspective, >then dig into the standards to figure out how to apply them. > >Can you talk a bit more about what functionality you're looking for from >RSS and/or Atom, Sean? My guess is that you're thinking about the >method of pointing to videoblog media in an entry element, is that right? I think so, yeah. I've had so many ideas about this subject over the last 5 years that it'll take me a few hours of good hard thought just to write down what functionality I'm looking for, let alone try to make a protocol. The Catalla software that powers vBlog Central has an undocumented and proprietary mechanism of exporting links to the raw media, so we have previously put some effort into these issues. Give me a few weeks and I'll be ready to start discussing/designing solutions. My highest priority right now is making the tools a little easier to use. (If nobody posts video there'll... [View]