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second attempt

By Deirdré Straughan | =?iso-8859-1?q?Deirdr=E9_Straughan?= <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 26, 2004 | Post #939 | Topic #939

In my ongoing crusade to understand how to format video for the widest possible market, I've put up the same video on my blog http://deirdres.typepad.com/deirdrestraughan/ , this time in SWF format. Please let me know your results. [View]



Re: [videoblogging] second attempt

By Steve Garfield | Steve Garfield <steve@...> | sgarfield
August 26, 2004 | Post #940 | Topic #939

Looks great on a Mac running OS X and Safari. I'd like to see a progress i= ndicator so I know who long it is, and also to be able to move the playhea= d around. --Steve On Aug 26, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Deirdr=E9 Straughan wrote:= > In my ongoing crusade to understand how to format video for the widest = > possible market, I've put up the same video on my blog > http://deirdres.= typepad.com/deirdrestraughan/ , this time in SWF > format. Please let me kn= ow your results. > --------- [ Web Sites ] --------- Steve Garfield Vide= o Production http://stevegarfield.com Video Blog http://stevegarfield.blog= s.com/videoblog/ Weblog: Off On A Tangent http://offonatangent.blogspot.co= m/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] second attempt

By Christopher Weagel | Christopher Weagel <humandog@...> | ronnalddd
August 26, 2004 | Post #942 | Topic #939

--Apple-Mail-3--740571270 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Same system, runs fine. I second the call for a control panel and progress= indicator. Chris On Aug 26, 2004, at 10:24 AM, Steve Garfield wrote: = > Looks great on a Mac running OS X and Safari. > > I'd like to see a prog= ress indicator so I know who long it is, and > also > to be able to move = the playhead around. > > --Steve > > On Aug 26, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Deirdr= =E9 Straughan wrote: > > > In my ongoing crusade to understand how to form= at video for the > widest > > possible market, I've put up the same video= on my blog > > http://deirdres.typepad.com/deirdrestraughan/ , this time = in SWF > > format. Please let me know your results. > > > > ---------=A0= [ Web Sites ]=A0 --------- > Steve Garfield Video Production > http://ste= vegarfield.com > > Video Blog > http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/ = > > Weblog: Off On A Tangent > http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/ > > > > = > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > <= l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > =95 To visit your group on the web, go= to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ > =A0 > =95 To unsub= scribe from this group, send an email to: > videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoo= groups.com > =A0 > =95 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the... [View]



Re: second attempt

By Deirdré Straughan | =?iso-8859-1?q?Deirdr=E9_Straughan?= <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 26, 2004 | Post #944 | Topic #939

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <steve@o...> wrote: > = Looks great on a Mac running OS X and Safari. > > I'd like to see a progre= ss indicator so I know who long it is, and also > to be able to move the p= layhead around. So would I. I started doing some scripting in Flash for St= op/Play controls, but discovered that this forced the entire video to load = before it would start streaming, whereas, when I leave it alone, it starts = playing almost immediately. So then I put the controls in JavaScript on the= webpage, but results have been very mixed. I'm hoping that someone who kn= ows more about Flash than I do will come up with a script that provides QT-= player-like controls and a progress bar, but starts the video streaming rig= ht away. Or I may figure it out myself, in time. best regards, Deirdr=E9 = Straughan http://www.straughan.com [View]



Re: [videoblogging] second attempt

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
August 30, 2004 | Post #1008 | Topic #939

On 26/08/2004, at 11:52 PM, Deirdr=E9 Straughan wrote: > In my ongoing cr= usade to understand how to format video for the widest > possible market, I= 've put up the same video on my blog > http://deirdres.typepad.com/deirdres= traughan/ , this time in SWF > format. Please let me know your results. lo= oked at http://deirdres.typepad.com/deirdrestraughan/2004/08/ when_worlds_= col.html click popup appears, nothing appears after quite a long time (30 s= econds plus), ah, my stooopid university proxy server's fault.... second = time worked a treat. oh, sorry Sean. that's australian come british engli= sh for excellent. though i'm getting stuttering and now you sound like a = chipmunk :-) you *really* need a scrub bar. (i know you know this). 1. ind= icate length/duration 2. allow playback cheers Adrian Miles ..............= ................................................... hypertext.rmit || hyper= text.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.a= u/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/ [View]



Re: [videoblogging] second attempt

By Lisa Harper | Lisa Harper <lisah2u@...> | lisah2u
August 30, 2004 | Post #1010 | Topic #939

--0-255344905-1093917769=:7163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Enjoyed visiting your blog, Deirdre! I love your topic and all of the interesting tidbits. I'm not sure I see the advantage of using flash, though. One thing I actually like about it are the accessiblity of controls using a right-click mouse button. But you have to know they are there -- and lots of viewers won't. But since I just joined this list... I may have missed relevant discussion on flash video. Lisa On 26/08/2004, at 11:52 PM, Deirdr� Straughan wrote: > In my ongoing crusade to understand how to format video for the widest > possible market, I've put up the same video on my blog > http://deirdres.typepad.com/deirdrestraughan/ , this time in SWF > format. Please let me know your results. Lisa Harper --0-255344905-1093917769=:7163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>Enjoyed visiting your blog, Deirdre! I love your topic and all of the interesting tidbits. I'm not sure I see the advantage of using flash, though. One thing I actually like about it are the accessiblity of controls using a right-click mouse button. But you have to know they are there -- and lots of viewers won't. But since I just joined this list... I may have missed relevant discussion on flash video.</DIV> <DIV>Lisa<BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><TT>On 26/08/2004, at 11:52 PM, Deirdr� Straughan wrote:<BR><BR>> In my ongoing crusade to understand how to format video for the widest<BR>> possible market, I've... [View]



Re: second attempt

By Deirdré Straughan | =?iso-8859-1?q?Deirdr=E9_Straughan?= <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 31, 2004 | Post #1015 | Topic #939

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Harper <lisah2u@y...> wrote: > E= njoyed visiting your blog, Deirdre! I love your topic and all of the intere= sting tidbits. I'm not sure I see the advantage of using flash, though. One= thing I actually like about it are the accessiblity of controls using a ri= ght-click mouse button. But you have to know they are there -- and lots of = viewers won't. But since I just joined this list... I may have missed relev= ant discussion on flash video. Cool! Even *I* didn't know they were there!= Demonstrating my total ignorance once again... So I could have skipped the= Javascript on my web pages (e.g., http://www.straughan.com/vlog/082204.htm= l ) This doesn't solve the scrubber/progress bar problem, but does have ju= st about every other control we could ask for. The advantages of using Fl= ash, from my POV, are these: - Apparently it has the largest installed bas= e - something like 96% of viewers already have the necessary plug-in instal= led, which is not true of any other format, according to information posted= here (and elsewhere). - I needed to learn how to put video on a corporate= website and, for the above reason, it seems like the best option - there a= re situations where you *don't* want controls displayed, just a simple wind= ow. > Lisa > > > On 26/08/2004, at 11:52 PM, Deirdr=EF=BF=BD Straughan= wrote: > > > In... [View]



Re: second attempt

By Deirdré Straughan | =?iso-8859-1?q?Deirdr=E9_Straughan?= <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 31, 2004 | Post #1016 | Topic #939

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Deirdr=EF=BF=BD Straughan <lists@s...= > wrote: > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Harper <lisah2u@y...>= wrote: > > Enjoyed visiting your blog, Deirdre! I love your topic and all = of > the interesting tidbits. I'm not sure I see the advantage of using > f= lash, though. One thing I actually like about it are the accessiblity > of = controls using a right-click mouse button. But you have to know > they are = there -- and lots of viewers won't. But since I just joined > this list... = I may have missed relevant discussion on flash video. > > Cool! Even *I* d= idn't know they were there! Demonstrating my total > ignorance once again..= . So I could have skipped the Javascript on my > web pages (e.g., http://ww= w.straughan.com/vlog/082204.html ) How do Mac users access these controls?= (So I can add a note to my pages to let people know, in case they're as ig= norant as I was.) [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: second attempt

By David Wolf | David Wolf <dpwolf@...> | dpwolf3000
August 31, 2004 | Post #1017 | Topic #939

Hi Deirdr=E9, Mac users can right click (if they have a two button mouse) = or they can control + click. Dave On 31/08/2004, at 5:19 PM, Deirdr=E9 S= traughan wrote: > > How do Mac users access these controls? (So I can add a= note to my > pages to let people know, in case they're as ignorant as I wa= s.) [View]



Re: second attempt

By Deirdré Straughan | =?iso-8859-1?q?Deirdr=E9_Straughan?= <lists@...> | deirdrebs2002
August 31, 2004 | Post #1019 | Topic #939

Great, thanks. I've put instructions on each video page, since I never know= where people come in from - not necessarily from the vlog home on on my si= te, and clearly not everyone knows about this. --- In videoblogging@yahoog= roups.com, David Wolf <dpwolf@m...> wrote: > Hi Deirdr=E9, > > Mac users c= an right click (if they have a two button mouse) or they can > control + c= lick. > > Dave > > On 31/08/2004, at 5:19 PM, Deirdr=E9 Straughan wrote: = > > > > How do Mac users access these controls? (So I can add a note to my = > > pages to let people know, in case they're as ignorant as I was.) [View]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: second attempt

By Lisa Harper | Lisa Harper <lisah2u@...> | lisah2u
August 31, 2004 | Post #1021 | Topic #939

--0-1645427751-1093952970=:46725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I see your point, though I don't really like the idea of relying on proprietary standards. Can't you just use Flash to develop your controls? Lisa Deirdr�_Straughan <lists@...> wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Harper <lisah2u@y...> wrote: > Enjoyed visiting your blog, Deirdre! I love your topic and all of the interesting tidbits. I'm not sure I see the advantage of using flash, though. One thing I actually like about it are the accessiblity of controls using a right-click mouse button. But you have to know they are there -- and lots of viewers won't. But since I just joined this list... I may have missed relevant discussion on flash video. Cool! Even *I* didn't know they were there! Demonstrating my total ignorance once again... So I could have skipped the Javascript on my web pages (e.g., http://www.straughan.com/vlog/082204.html ) This doesn't solve the scrubber/progress bar problem, but does have just about every other control we could ask for. The advantages of using Flash, from my POV, are these: - Apparently it has the largest installed base - something like 96% of viewers already have the necessary plug-in installed, which is not true of any other format, according to information posted here (and elsewhere). - I needed to learn how to put video on a corporate website and, for the above reason, it seems like the best option - there are situations where you *don't* want controls displayed,... [View]