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Re: [videoblogging] 150 – Group Tipping Point?

By Richard | Richard <richardshow@...> | richardshowvlog
July 22, 2005 | Post #17930 | Topic #17917

First I wanted to post so that I have two this month, and will be counted i= n the group ... actually I wanted to point something out, that may be miss= ing from all these conversations (though I'm sure others are thinking it). = I love this group and I still get a lot out of it ... the positive, for me= , still far outweighs the negative ... first of all, you can ignore the emo= tional/flame war threads if you want, but I admit I read them and watch my = emotions and feel human and sort of enjoy it ... if nothing else what a gre= at video Mel made that resulted from all the commotion ... I strongly recom= mend it, if you haven't seen it ... it's a classic ... http://melslife.org= /archives/2005/07/20/dr-phil-can-you-please-help/ .. this video, to me, de= monstrates a great attitude and perspective - by emphasizing the humor it d= iffuses all the built up drama our minds create - the thing is, none of it'= s real, it's just our minds, it's just life, it's funny, and we (including = me) have an unfortunate tendency to identify with the drama our mind creat= es, rather than just watching and appreciating it ... ... anyway, this lis= t is a bunch of very human humans, sure, but it's still great and I wouldn'= t think about un-subscribing for a second - unless I get kicked out for dou= ble posting and starting too many threads :) ... Richard, the Yahoo Vlog Gr= oup list lover On 7/22/05, Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...> wrote: = > I've heard of this... > > so, you feel that the group is undergoing s= ome passive-aggressive social > dilemma here? > > i think when a few peo= ple stir up things and amp up the noise level... > people will get flustere= d... it ripples. > those who enjoy interacting using this list will find i= t hard to restrain > from responding to some postings.... > their is also= the ego element... even when you denounce the big ego, in > doing so publi= cly, it is almost no different. > > people like to be witty... some get = too nasty. gotta keep balance... stay > tuned, always. > > the numbers = are in the back of our head... we see how many posts are made > and how man= y people join the group.. > it can subconsciously hype you... and that lea= ds to potential brazenness. > > it's also summer..... and hot most place= s... known to be a player in > amplifying craze in all of us. > any extrem= e weather, actually. > > i think things are ok... we have experienced so= cial spikes (for good or > bad) here before.... > way it is. > > we sh= ould remember that what we write is being portentially read by over > 1000 = people... > are some playing for an audience or just looking to talk the = vlog? > > we need more video.... summer of vlog yo.. and I gotta get my = act together. > > maybe I will do a rant piece today... > > sull > = > On 7/22/05, Michael Verdi <michael@...> wrote: > > So I've b= een reading The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell which is a > > fascinating= book. I just finished the chapter about groups of 150. > > For those of y= ou who haven't read the book here's a quick summary of > > this idea via, h= ttp://tinyurl.com/45rhj > > > > THE MAGIC NUMBER 150 > > "There seems to b= e some limitation built into us either by learning > > or by the design of = the nervous systems, a limit that keeps our > > channel capacities in this= general range (i.e. the human minds > > inability to comprehend things bey= ond sets 7)" George Miller "The > > Magical Number Seven" > > > > "The fig= ure of 150 seems to represent the maximum number of > > individuals with w= hom we can have a genuinely social relationship, > > the kind of relationsh= ip that goes with knowing who they are and how > > they relate to us. Putti= ng it another way, it's the number of people > > you would not feel embarra= ssed about joining uninvited for a drink if > > you happened to bump into = them in a bar." Robin Dunbar, > > > > 1. Even relatively small increas= es in the size of a group [beyond > > 150] creates a significant additional= social and intellectual burden. > > 2. The rule of 150 suggests that t= he size of a group is another > > one of those subtle contextual factors t= hat can make a big difference. > > 3. Peer pressure is much more powerf= ul than a concept of a boss > > 4. Transactive memory: we store informa= tion with other people. > > Since mental energy is limited, we concentrate = on what we do best. > > 5. Groups of 150 are an organized mechanism th= at makes it far > > easier for new ideas and information moving around the = organization > > to tip; to go from one person or one part of the group to = the entire > > group all at once. > > > > So this got me thinking about h= ow, it seems to me, the tone and > > demeanor of the group has altered in t= he last couple of weeks. Now I > > know this group is larger than 1000 peo= ple but most don't post at > > all. To me the group feels like a group of = the people who post > > regularly. So I went back and counted how many pe= ople posted at > > least twice in the last month. My quick count - 145! C= ould it be > > that this group is reacting not to any individual or small g= roup of > > posters but rather have we begun to reach "the maximum number o= f > > individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship?" = > > > > Verdi > > http://michaelverdi.com > > http://freevlog.org > > > >= > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >= > > -- > sull > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -= - - - - > http://vlogdir.com -is- The Videoblog Directory > http://interdi= gitate.com -is- my personal site > > ________________________________ >= YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "videoblogging" on the w= eb. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > videoblogg= ing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! 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