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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 6, 2004 | Post #582 | Topic #567

--0-440109080-1091842819=:28780 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=X-UNKNOWN; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.60.0408062140291.28780@...> Try hooking up the HTML so that it has the standard embedded qt player in = the browser window, but the URL of the item it plays is the MP4. You can = get sample HTML from Steve Garfield's site. On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon N= oble wrote: > One last one. > > Why does the mp4 not access the plugin for= display in the browser window? > > > > > > On 8/6/04 6:00 PM, "Shannon Nob= le" <sn@...> wrote: > >> Ok, >> >> Now I=B9m starting to get it. >> >> = One last question. Um....uh..... What is a =B3playlist=B2? >> >> Thanks aga= in Lucas. >> >> shannon >> >> >> >> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonz= e@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:= >>> >>>>> So.... >>>>> >>>>> Also....why does the mpeg4 file not act like = the .mov file? The .mov file >>>>> begins streaming in the browser window b= ut the mpeg4 file has to download >>>>> completely before it opens and begi= ns to play. >>>>> >>>>> Questions questions questions >>> >>> A good questi= on. >>> >>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing the URL, bu= t the >>> quicktime application *is*. The quicktime plugin can see the mov= as the >>> bytes come down, but the quicktime application doesn't even kno= w the mp4 >>> is there until all the bytes are downloaded. ...this is beca= use of the >>> way that browsers interact with helper applications. >>> >>>= The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it nothing but the url of >= >> the mp4 file. >>> >>> - Lucas >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>= > Shannon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@nn= on.tv> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Ok... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I=B9m starting to underst= and a little bit now. I=B9d previously tried >>>>> creating >>>>>>> the fil= e and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is remedied > so >>>= >>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not = sure >>>>>>> about the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of = questions. > I >>>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*( >>>>>>> >= >>>>>> Shannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "= Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The = quick fix -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the d= irectory where you keep your >>>>>>> videos. >>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line = in it: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .= htaccess that doesn't blow >>>>>>> chunks, >>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have tim= e today. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon No= ble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding! >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lg= onze@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, there wouldn't be so much >>>>>>>>>>> = new turf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have fun with. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime types if it's >>>= >>>>>>>> useful to >>>>>>>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need pe= rmission to drop it into your hosting >>>>>>>>>>> directory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right mime type would be either video/mpeg o= r >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the config for your web server.=A0 >>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> Create a file called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in y= our video directory and put this in > it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddTy= pe video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried = this out and got invalid error messages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server >>>= >> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started= poking around the support forum for my web > host where I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= > found this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no= ticed that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or > any mpeg 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= extension >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mime-types. = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about = this, the response I received > was: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> the internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> future, we may consider enabling it on our servers. > However, the >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system = defined types is because > it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write the software we use to not be > common."= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else f= ind this totally amusing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the >>>>> same >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here they are with other mime-types such as ".latex" > implem= ented, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a c= urrent standard because it's not > wide-spread? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, the average web-surfer will NEVER see som= ething > ".latex" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to their local pharmacy and look next to things= also > labelled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>> and self-test kits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might = make one want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to switch to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> di= fferent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting operation? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on x.nnon.tv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 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