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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 6, 2004 | Post #583 | Topic #567

--0-1600090067-1091843760=:28780 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Try: http://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4 That's very quick a= nd dirty. I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at me for working on th= e computer late on friday night. :) Thanks to Steve G. for the HTML for e= mbedding QuickTime, which comes from: http://s95130335.onlinehome.us/video/= dnc_sam_adams.html (Which is a really funny and excelling bit of vogging, = BTW). On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Lucas Gonze wrote: > > Hang loose and I'll cran= k out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon. > I'll try to get it don= e this weekend. > > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: > >> Ok, >> >>= Now I=B9m starting to get it. >> >> One last question. Um....uh..... What = is a =B3playlist=B2? >> >> Thanks again Lucas. >> >> shannon >> >> >> >> On= 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On = Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>> >>>>> So.... >>>>> >>>>> Also....= why does the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file >>>>> beg= ins streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to download >>>>= > completely before it opens and begins to play. >>>>> >>>>> Questions ques= tions questions >>> >>> A good question. >>> >>> The quicktime plugin on yo= ur machine isn't grabbing the URL, but the >>> quicktime application *is*. = The quicktime plugin can see the mov as the >>> bytes come down, but the q= uicktime application doesn't even know the mp4 >>> is there until all the b= ytes are downloaded. ...this is because of the >>> way that browsers inter= act with helper applications. >>> >>> The quick fix is to make a playlist a= nd put in it nothing but the url of >>> the mp4 file. >>> >>> - Lucas >>> >= >> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Shannon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8= /6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Ok... >>>>= >>> >>>>>>> I=B9m starting to understand a little bit now. I=B9d previously= tried >>>>> creating >>>>>>> the file and now realized I=B9d made a minor = mistake and that is remedied >> so >>>>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct d= ownload to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not sure >>>>>>> about the chunks blowing= though 8*) . I still have lots of questions. >> I >>>>>>> don=B9t know = what they are yet though. 8*( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>= >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrot= e: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The quick fix -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>= Create a file named .htaccess in the directory where you keep your >>>>>>>= videos. >>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AddTy= pe video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> = The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't blow >>>>>>> c= hunks, >>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>= >>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> That would be outstanding! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy,= there wouldn't be so much >>>>>>>>>>> new turf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have= fun with. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a list= ing of corrected mime types if it's >>>>>>>>>>> useful to >>>>>>>>>>>>> peo= ple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission to drop it into your hostin= g >>>>>>>>> >> directory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6= Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type d= ocumented here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/r= fc3640.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The righ= t mime type would be either video/mpeg or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-gen= eric. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in= the config for your web server.=A0 Create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file called >>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this in= it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error messag= es >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> th= en >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started poking around the support forum for = my web >> host where I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that HostRocket doesn't have "= .mp4" or >> any mpeg 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> defined in their server mime-types. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about this, the response I received was: = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in = use, it is not yet ubiquitous on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, we may consider enabling i= t on our servers. >> However, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined types is because >> it is >>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write = the software we use to not be >> common." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else find this totally amusing and >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the >>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time? >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here they are with o= ther mime-types such as ".latex" >> implemented, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current standard because it's not = >> wide-spread? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet= , the average web-surfer will NEVER see something >> ".latex" >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> unless they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to = their local pharmacy and look next to things also >> labelled >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits. >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one want to >> switch to = a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting= operation? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Pos= t on x.nnon.tv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> Shannon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 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