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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
August 6, 2004 | Post #584 | Topic #567

--B_3174668329_75757 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =B3Utterly Fantastic=B2 regarding your help is all I can say! I imagine tha= t within a year there will be enough info on this yahoogroup to put togethe= r a marketable book to pay for a web server and all sorts of things.....and= the info will be obsolete by then. Shucks. Fortunately for me my wife is = as much of a computer addict as I am. We use to AIM across the room at each= other, until our telepathic abilities became more honed. Shannon O= n 8/6/04 6:56 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: > > Try: > http= ://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4 > > That's very quick and dir= ty. I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at > me for working on the com= puter late on friday night. :) > > Thanks to Steve G. for the HTML for em= bedding QuickTime, which comes from: > http://s95130335.onlinehome.us/video= /dnc_sam_adams.html > > (Which is a really funny and excelling bit of vogg= ing, BTW). > > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Lucas Gonze wrote: > >> > >> > Hang lo= ose and I'll crank out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon. >> > I'= ll try to get it done this weekend. >> > >> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon N= oble wrote: >> > >>> >> Ok, >>> >> >>> >> Now I=B9m starting to get it. >>>= >> >>> >> One last question. Um....uh..... What is a =B3playlist=B2? >>> >= > >>> >> Thanks again Lucas. >>> >> >>> >> shannon >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>= >> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>> >> >>>> = >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>> >>> >>>= >>> >>>>> So.... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Also....why does the mpeg4 file = not act like the .mov file? The >>>>>> .mov file >>>>>> >>>>> begins stream= ing in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to >>>>>> download >>>>>> = >>>>> completely before it opens and begins to play. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>= >>> Questions questions questions >>>> >>> >>>> >>> A good question. >>>> >= >> >>>> >>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing the URL, bu= t the >>>> >>> quicktime application *is*. The quicktime plugin can see th= e mov as the >>>> >>> bytes come down, but the quicktime application doesn'= t even know the mp4 >>>> >>> is there until all the bytes are downloaded. = ...this is because of the >>>> >>> way that browsers interact with helper a= pplications. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put = in it nothing but the url of >>>> >>> the mp4 file. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - Luc= as >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>= > >>>>>> >>>>> Shannon >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> = On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>= > >>>>>>> Ok... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I=B9m starting to underst= and a little bit now. I=B9d previously tried >>>>>> >>>>> creating >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> the file and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is >= >>>>>>> remedied >>> >> so >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct = download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m >>>>>>>> not sure >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> about= the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of >>>>>>>> questions= . >>> >> I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*( >>>>= >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>= >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas G= onze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The quick fix -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the directory where >>>>>>= >>>>>> you keep your >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> videos. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Put = this one line in it: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AddT= ype video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>= >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to com= pile a standard .htaccess that >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't blow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c= hunks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today. >>>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug = 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "L= ucas Gonze" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, there wouldn't be so m= uch >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> new turf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>> have fun with. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime = types if it's >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> useful to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>= >> people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission = to drop it into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hosting >>>>>>>>> >>> >> director= y. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented here: >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> The right mime type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be either vide= o/mpeg or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic. >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> config for your web server.=A0 Create >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = a file called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .hta= ccess in your video >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory and put this in = it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/= mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error messages >>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server >>>>>> >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started poking around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> the support forum for my web >>> >> host where I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or >>> >> any mpeg 4 = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mime-types. >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= > this, the response I received was: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> the internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, we may consider = enabling it on our servers. >>> >> However, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m= peg4 is not in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system defined types is bec= ause >>> >> it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write the sof= tware we use to not be >>> >> common." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> Does anyone else find this totally amusing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>> ridiculous at the >>>>>> >>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here= they are with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other mime-types such as ".late= x" >>> >> implemented, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current stan= dard because it's not >>> >> wide-spread? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> Yet, the average >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web-surfer will NEVER s= ee something >>> >> ".latex" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless th= ey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to their local pharmacy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and look next to things also >>> >> labelled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is = this the kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that might make one wan= t to >>> >> switch to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ho= sting operation? 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Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/i= nfo/terms/> . > --B_3174668329_75757 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported</TITLE> </HEAD= > <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">“Utterly Fantastic” regarding y= our help is all I can say! I imagine that within a year there will be enoug= h info on this yahoogroup to put together a marketable book to pay for a we= b server and all sorts of things.....and the info will be obsolete by then.= Shucks.<BR> <BR> Fortunately for me my wife is as much of a computer addic= t as I am. We use to AIM across the room at each other, until our telepathi= c abilities became more honed. <BR> <BR> <BR> Shannon<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <B= R> <BR> On 8/6/04 6:56 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...>= wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"New York"><TT><BR> Try:<B= R> http://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4<BR&gt; <BR> That's very qu= ick and dirty.  I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at <BR> me for= working on the computer late on friday night.  :)<BR> <BR> Thanks to = Steve G. for the HTML for embedding QuickTime, which comes from:<BR> http:/= /s95130335.onlinehome.us/video/dnc_sam_adams.html<BR> <BR> (Which is a real= ly funny and excelling bit of vogging, BTW).<BR> <BR> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, L= ucas Gonze wrote:<BR> <BR> ><BR> > Hang loose and I'll crank out a to= ol to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.<BR> > I'll try to get it done t= his weekend.<BR> ><BR> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR>= ><BR> >> Ok,<BR> >><BR> >> Now I’m starting to = get it.<BR> >><BR> >> One last question. Um....uh..... What is = a “playlist”?<BR> >><BR> >> Thanks again Lucas.<BR>= >><BR> >> shannon<BR> >><BR> >><BR> >><BR> &= gt;> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...>= wrote:<BR> >><BR> >>><BR> >>><BR> >>> On = Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR> >>><BR> >>>>= > So....<BR> >>>>><BR> >>>>> Also....why d= oes the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file<BR> >>&g= t;>> begins streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to= download<BR> >>>>> completely before it opens and begins to= play.<BR> >>>>><BR> >>>>> Questions question= s questions<BR> >>><BR> >>> A good question.<BR> >>= ><BR> >>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing t= he URL, but the<BR> >>> quicktime application *is*.  The quic= ktime plugin can see the mov as the<BR> >>> bytes come down, but t= he quicktime application doesn't even know the mp4<BR> >>> is ther= e until all the bytes are downloaded.  ...this is because of the<BR> &= gt;>> way that browsers interact with helper applications.<BR> >&g= t;><BR> >>> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it n= othing but the url of<BR> >>> the mp4 file.<BR> >>><BR> &= gt;>> - Lucas<BR> >>><BR> >>><BR> >>><BR> = >>>>><BR> >>>>> Thanks,<BR> >>>>&= gt;<BR> >>>>> Shannon<BR> >>>>><BR> >>&= gt;>><BR> >>>>><BR> >>>>> On 8/6/04 5:0= 0 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@...> wrote:<BR> >>>&= gt;><BR> >>>>>>> Ok...<BR> >>>>>>= ><BR> >>>>>>> I’m starting to understand a li= ttle bit now. I’d previously tried<BR> >>>>> creating<= BR> >>>>>>> the file and now realized I’d made a= minor mistake and that is remedied<BR> >> so<BR> >>>>>= ;>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. IR= 17;m not sure<BR> >>>>>>> about the chunks blowing tho= ugh 8*)  .   I still have lots of questions.<BR> >> I<= BR> >>>>>>> don’t know what they are yet though.= 8*(<BR> >>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>> Shan= non<BR> >>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>><BR> &= gt;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>><BR> >>&g= t;>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@pa= nix.com> wrote:<BR> >>>>>>><BR> >>>>>= ;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>> = The quick fix --<BR> >>>>>>>>>>><BR> >&= gt;>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in th= e directory where you keep your<BR> >>>>>>> videos.<BR= > >>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it:<BR>= >>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>&= gt;>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4<BR> >>>>>= ;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>><= BR> >>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>&g= t;>>>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that= doesn't blow<BR> >>>>>>> chunks,<BR> >>>>= >>>>>>> but I won't have time today.<BR> >>>&= gt;>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>= ;><BR> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, = Shannon Noble wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>>>>><BR> &= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be o= utstanding!<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.<= BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s<BR> >>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <= lgonze@...> wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>> Sigh.  Well, if it was all easy, there w= ouldn't be so much<BR> >>>>>>>>>>> new tur= f to<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>> have fun with.  :)<BR> >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of c= orrected mime types if it's<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= ; useful to<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people= .<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;> You'll need permission to drop it into your hosting >>>>= ;>>>>><BR> >> directory.<BR> >>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 200= 4, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type= documented here:<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rfc-edit= or.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>> The right mime type would be either video/mpeg or<B= R> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vid= eo/mpeg4-generic.<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>> The fix is in the config for your web server.=A0 Create<= BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file cal= led<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in your video directory= and put this in it:<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mp= eg4-generic mp4<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error messages<BR> &g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server<= BR> >>>>> and<BR> >>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then<BR>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>> started poking around the support forum = for my web<BR> >> host where I<BR> >>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>> found this<BR> >>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> dated June 6,2004<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noti= ced that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or<BR> >> any mpeg = 4<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = extension<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mim= e-types.<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>> Having asked about this, the response I received was:<BR> >>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Whil= e mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on<BR> >>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> the internet.<BR> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> In the<BR> >>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>> future, we may consider enabling it on our servers.<BR> = >> However, the<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>> reason<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is n= ot in the system defined types is because<BR> >> it is<BR> >>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by<BR= > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>> others who write the software we use to= not be<BR> >> common."<BR> >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR= > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>> Does anyone else find this totally amus= ing and<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ri= diculous at the<BR> >>>>> same<BR> >>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> time?<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>> Here they are with other mime-types such as ".latex&qu= ot;<BR> >> implemented,<BR> >>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>> but they<BR> >>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = won't use a current standard because it's not<BR> >> wide-spread?<BR>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ye= t, the average web-surfer will NEVER see something<BR> >> ".late= x"<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;> unless they<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>> go<BR> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;> to their local pharmacy and look next to things also<BR> >> lab= elled<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>> "polyurathane"<BR> >>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>> and self-test kits.<BR> >>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><B= R> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> = Is this the kind of thing that might make one want to<BR> >> switch t= o a<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>> different<BR> >>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>> hosting operation?<BR> >>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>> New Post on  x.nnon.tv<BR> >>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR> >&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>> Shannon<BR> >>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><B= R> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><= BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= <BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>>>>><BR> >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= ;<BR> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 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