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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Shannon Noble | Shannon Noble <sn@...> | sh7nnon
August 6, 2004 | Post #577 | Topic #567

--B_3174657804_854259 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable So.... Also....why does the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mo= v file begins streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to dow= nload completely before it opens and begins to play. Questions questions q= uestions Thanks, Shannon On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@nnon.t= v> wrote: > Ok... > > I=B9m starting to understand a little bit now. I=B9= d previously tried creating > the file and now realized I=B9d made a minor = mistake and that is remedied so > now the mpeg4 file is a direct download t= o my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not sure > about the chunks blowing though 8*) . = I still have lots of questions. I > don=B9t know what they are yet though= . 8*( > > Shannon > > > > > On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@p= anix.com> wrote: > >> > >> > The quick fix -- >> > >> > Create a file na= med .htaccess in the directory where you keep your videos. >> > Put this on= e line in it: >> > >> > AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >> > >> > >> > = >> > The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't blow chun= ks, >> > but I won't have time today. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, = Shannon Noble wrote: >> > >>> >> That would be outstanding! >>> >> >>> >>= Thanks. >>> >> >>> >> .s >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas= Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Sigh. Well, i= f it was all easy, there wouldn't be so much new turf to >>>> >>> have fun = with. :) >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime type= s if it's useful to >>>> people. >>>> >>> You'll need permission to drop it= into your hosting directory. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shanno= n Noble wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> MP4 mime type documented here: >>>>>> >>>>> htt= p://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The right= mime type would be either video/mpeg or >>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic. >>>>>>= >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The fix is in the config for your web server.=A0 Creat= e a file called >>>>>> >>>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this= in it: >>>>>> >>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >= >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error = messages from the server and >>>>>> >>>>> then >>>>>> >>>>> started poking = around the support forum for my web host where I >>>>>> found this >>>>>> >= >>>> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I've notice= d that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or any mpeg 4 >>>>>> extension >>>>>>= >>>>> defined in their server mime-types. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Havin= g asked about this, the response I received was: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>= "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on the internet. >>>>>> I= n the >>>>>> >>>>> future, we may consider enabling it on our servers. Howe= ver, the >>>>>> reason >>>>>> >>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined type= s is because it is >>>>>> considered by >>>>>> >>>>> others who write the s= oftware we use to not be common." >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Does anyone el= se find this totally amusing and ridiculous at the same >>>>>> >>>>> time? = >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Here they are with other mime-types such as ".la= tex" implemented, >>>>>> but they >>>>>> >>>>> won't use a current standard= because it's not wide-spread? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yet, the average = web-surfer will NEVER see something ".latex" >>>>>> unless they >>>>> >>>> = go >>>>>> >>>>> to their local pharmacy and look next to things also labell= ed >>>>> >>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>> >>>>> and self-test kits. >>>>>> >>>>> = >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one w= ant to switch to a >>>>>> >>>>> different >>>>>> >>>>> hosting operation? >= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> New Post on x.nnon.tv >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Shannon >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>= >> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >= >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! 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The .mov file begins streaming in the brow= ser window but the mpeg4 file has to download completely before it opens an= d begins to play. <BR> <BR> Questions questions questions<BR> <BR> Thanks,<= BR> <BR> Shannon<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble&= quot; <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>sn@...</U></FONT>> wrote:<BR> <= BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"New York"><TT>Ok...<BR> <BR> I’m= starting to understand a little bit now. I’d previously tried creati= ng<BR> the file and now realized I’d made a minor mistake and that is= remedied so<BR> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm= . I’m not sure<BR> about the chunks blowing though 8*)  .  =  I still have lots of questions. I<BR> don’t know what they are = yet though. 8*(<BR> <BR> Shannon<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM,= "Lucas Gonze" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>lgonze@...</U= ></FONT>> wrote:<BR> <BR> > <BR> > The quick fix --<BR> > <BR> = > Create a file named .htaccess in the directory where you keep your vid= eos.<BR> > Put this one line in it:<BR> > <BR> > AddType video/mpe= g4-generic mp4<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > The real fix is to co= mpile a standard .htaccess that doesn't blow chunks,<BR> > but I won't h= ave time today.<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon No= ble wrote:<BR> > <BR> >> That would be outstanding!<BR> >> <= BR> >> Thanks.<BR> >> <BR> >> .s<BR> >> <BR> >&g= t; <BR> >> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <<FONT COLOR= =3D"#0000FF"><U>lgonze@...</U></FONT>> wrote:<BR> >> <BR> &g= t;>> <BR> >>> Sigh.  Well, if it was all easy, there wo= uldn't be so much new turf to<BR> >>> have fun with.  :)<BR> = >>> <BR> >>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime ty= pes if it's useful to people.<BR> >>> You'll need permission to dr= op it into your hosting directory.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> On Fr= i, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR> >>>>> MP4 mime type = documented here:<BR> >>>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http:/= /www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt<BR> </U></FONT>>>>>> <BR= > >>>>> The right mime type would be either video/mpeg or vi= deo/mpeg4-generic.<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> The f= ix is in the config for your web server.=A0 Create a file called<BR> >&g= t;>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this in it:<BR> &g= t;>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4<BR> >>>>>= <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>&= gt; So I tried this out and got invalid error messages from the server and<= BR> >>>>> then<BR> >>>>> started poking aroun= d the support forum for my web host where I found this<BR> >>>>= > dated June 6,2004<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <= BR> >>>>> I've noticed that HostRocket doesn't have ".m= p4" or any mpeg 4 extension<BR> >>>>> defined in their = server mime-types.<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> Havin= g asked about this, the response I received was:<BR> >>>>> <= BR> >>>>> "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquit= ous on the internet. In the<BR> >>>>> future, we may conside= r enabling it on our servers. However, the reason<BR> >>>>> = mpeg4 is not in the system defined types is because it is considered by<BR>= >>>>> others who write the software we use to not be common= ."<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> Does anyone else= find this totally amusing and ridiculous at the same<BR> >>>>&= gt; time?<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> Here they are = with other mime-types such as ".latex" implemented, but they<BR> = >>>>> won't use a current standard because it's not wide-spr= ead?<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> Yet, the average we= b-surfer will NEVER see something ".latex" unless they<BR> >&g= t;>> go<BR> >>>>> to their local pharmacy and look nex= t to things also labelled<BR> >>>> "polyurathane"<BR>= >>>>> and self-test kits.<BR> >>>>> <BR> >= ;>>>> <BR> >>>>> Is this the kind of thing that = might make one want to switch to a<BR> >>>>> different<BR> &= gt;>>>> hosting operation?<BR> >>>>> <BR> >&g= t;>>> New Post on  x.nnon.tv<BR> >>>>> <BR> &g= t;>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR>= >>>>> Shannon<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>= ;> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>= >> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>&= gt;>> Yahoo! Groups Links<BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>&= gt;> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>>>> <BR> >>&g= t;>> <BR> >>> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor<BR> >>> <BR> &g= t;>>  ADVERTISEMENT<BR> >>> <BR> >>> <<FONT= COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=3D129q8akuk/M=3D298184.52= 85298.6392945.3001176/D=3Dgr<BR> </U></FONT>>>> ou<BR> >>>= ; ps/S=3D1705554021:HM/EXP=3D1091918769/A=3D2164331/R=3D0/SIG=3D11eaelai9/*= <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.ne<BR&gt; </U></FONT>>>> tf<BR>= >>> lix.com/Default?mqso=3D60183351><BR> >>> <BR> >= ;>> <BR> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links<BR> >>> * To visit= your group on the web, go to:<BR> >>> * <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><= U>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/<BR&gt; </U></FONT>>>> = *<BR> >>> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<BR> = >>> * <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogr= oups.com<BR> </U></FONT>>>> <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>mailto:= videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=3DUnsubscribe</U></FONT>&= gt;<BR> >>> *<BR> >>> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subj= ect to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<BR> >>> <<FONT COLOR=3D"#000= 0FF"><U>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</U></FONT>&gt; .<BR> >>>= <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> > Yahoo! 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