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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 6, 2004 | Post #578 | Topic #567

--0-658271423-1091839911=:28780 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: > So.... > > Also....why does t= he mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file > begins streaming = in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to download > completely befor= e it opens and begins to play. > > Questions questions questions A good qu= estion. The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing the URL, but t= he quicktime application *is*. The quicktime plugin can see the mov as th= e bytes come down, but the quicktime application doesn't even know the mp4= is there until all the bytes are downloaded. ...this is because of the = way that browsers interact with helper applications. The quick fix is to m= ake a playlist and put in it nothing but the url of the mp4 file. - Lucas= > > Thanks, > > Shannon > > > > On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@= nnon.tv> wrote: > >> Ok... >> >> I=B9m starting to understand a little bit = now. I=B9d previously tried creating >> the file and now realized I=B9d mad= e a minor mistake and that is remedied so >> now the mpeg4 file is a direct= download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not sure >> about the chunks blowing th= ough 8*) . I still have lots of questions. I >> don=B9t know what they a= re yet though. 8*( >> >> Shannon >> >> >> >> >> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas G= onze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >> >>>> >>>> The quick fix -- >>>> >>>> Cre= ate a file named .htaccess in the directory where you keep your videos. >>>= > Put this one line in it: >>>> >>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>> >= >>> >>>> >>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't = blow chunks, >>>> but I won't have time today. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 6 Aug= 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>> >>>>>> That would be outstanding! >>>>>> >= >>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> .s >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Luc= as Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, i= f it was all easy, there wouldn't be so much new turf to >>>>>>>> have fun = with. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime types= if it's useful to >>>>> people. >>>>>>>> You'll need permission to drop it= into your hosting directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon= Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented here: >>>>>>>>>>>> http= ://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The right m= ime type would be either video/mpeg or >>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic. >>>>>>>= >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the config for your web server.=A0 Create = a file called >>>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this i= n it: >>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>= > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error messa= ges from the server > and >>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>> started poking aro= und the support forum for my web host where I >>>>>>> found this >>>>>>>>>>= >> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed th= at HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or any mpeg 4 >>>>>>> extension >>>>>>>>>= >>> defined in their server mime-types. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Having as= ked about this, the response I received was: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Whi= le mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on the internet. >>>>>>> In th= e >>>>>>>>>>>> future, we may consider enabling it on our servers. However,= the >>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined types i= s because it is >>>>>>> considered by >>>>>>>>>>>> others who write the sof= tware we use to not be common." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else = find this totally amusing and ridiculous at the > same >>>>>>>>>>>> time? >= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Here they are with other mime-types such as ".late= x" implemented, >>>>>>> but they >>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current standard = because it's not wide-spread? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, the average we= b-surfer will NEVER see something ".latex" >>>>>>> unless they >>>>>>>>>> g= o >>>>>>>>>>>> to their local pharmacy and look next to things also labelle= d >>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits. >>>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one want= to switch to a >>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>> hosting operation? >>>>= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on x.nnon.tv >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yah= oo! 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