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Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

By Lucas Gonze | Lucas Gonze <lgonze@...> | lucas_gonze
August 6, 2004 | Post #581 | Topic #567

--0-865145333-1091842759=:28780 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hang loose and I'll crank out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.= I'll try to get it done this weekend. On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble = wrote: > Ok, > > Now I=B9m starting to get it. > > One last question. Um..= ..uh..... What is a =B3playlist=B2? > > Thanks again Lucas. > > shannon > >= > > On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: > >> >> >> = On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >> >>>> So.... >>>> >>>> Also....w= hy does the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file >>>> begin= s streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to download >>>> c= ompletely before it opens and begins to play. >>>> >>>> Questions questions= questions >> >> A good question. >> >> The quicktime plugin on your machin= e isn't grabbing the URL, but the >> quicktime application *is*. The quick= time plugin can see the mov as the >> bytes come down, but the quicktime ap= plication doesn't even know the mp4 >> is there until all the bytes are dow= nloaded. ...this is because of the >> way that browsers interact with help= er applications. >> >> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it no= thing but the url of >> the mp4 file. >> >> - Lucas >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Than= ks, >>>> >>>> Shannon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble= " <sn@...> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Ok... >>>>>> >>>>>> I=B9m starting to und= erstand a little bit now. I=B9d previously tried >>>> creating >>>>>> the f= ile and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is remedied > so >= >>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not= sure >>>>>> about the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of = questions. > I >>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*( >>>>>> >>>= >>> Shannon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Go= nze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The quick fix -= - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the directory wher= e you keep your >>>>>> videos. >>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it: >>>>>>>>= >> >>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>> >>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't= blow >>>>>> chunks, >>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today. >>>>>>>>>> >>>= >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>= >>>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>= >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, t= here wouldn't be so much >>>>>>>>>> new turf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have fun= with. :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of= corrected mime types if it's >>>>>>>>>> useful to >>>>>>>>>>>> people. >>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission to drop it into your hosting >>>>>>>= >> > directory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, S= hannon Noble wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented her= e: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt >>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right mime type woul= d be either video/mpeg or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic. >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the config for you= r web server.=A0 Create >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this in it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= So I tried this out and got invalid error messages >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the= server >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= started poking around the support forum for my web > host where I >>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>> found this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004 >>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've= noticed that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or > any mpeg 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> extension >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mime-types.= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about t= his, the response I received was: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on >>>>>>>>>>= >>>> the internet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> futur= e, we may consider enabling it on our servers. > However, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined ty= pes is because > it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> others who write the software we use to not be > common." >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else find this total= ly amusing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the >>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here = they are with other mime-types such as ".latex" > implemented, >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> but they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current standard becau= se it's not > wide-spread? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>> Yet, the average web-surfer will NEVER see something > ".latex" >>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>> unless they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= > to their local pharmacy and look next to things also > labelled >>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits.= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one want to > switch to a = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting ope= ration? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on = x.nnon.tv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shann= on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo!= Groups Links >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 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