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Re: [videoblogging] Re: deeplinking considered n/a

By Adrian Miles | Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@...> | adrianlmiles
July 1, 2004 | Post #238 | Topic #140

On 28/06/2004, at 5:30 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: > This is different from deeplinking directly to a movie file. In my > world, anyway. > Movies aren't hypertexts. The movies we're making now aren't > hypermedia either. They are dead ends on the world wide web and as > you > say: Alone they have no context. another good point, but one that suggests our movies should change, not our deep linking practices. eg, any of my vogs, click the question mark in the lower right of screen and it will load a web page. *Every* movie should link to another object, there should not be a dead end. > > The context is provided in the videoblog entry. The HTML page that > describes the video and either displays a video window or has a link > to the video file. yep, though you can include it in the movie too if you wish. in my case i have one blog which is only video, another blog which offers commentary. the link in the video goes to the commentary page. i ahve put textin movies before, but they just end up too much as closed objects. > > So when I create a video entry what I'm saying is. Here's a work I > created: It's a videoblog entry consisting of some hypertext (HTML) > *and* an embedded video. Then normal copyright laws applies: > Distributing another's work without their permission is a no-no. This > will include showing the video out of context (in my world! I am not > a > laywer!). sort of :-) i have a creative commons licence which means yoiu can reuse my work for noncommercial purposes but you must acknowledge me. in some blogs it is common to cite/steal the entire blog entry into your own blog (and rss aggregators do this *all* the time) but attribution is always acknowledged or preserved. in a vog it is not as clear how you would do this, but like a blog entry, you make the effort in *your* entry/video to do this. eg in a blog i'd say "nnn has made some good points" where nnn is their name and i provide a link to where these good points are made. we need to do the same in our videos. this coiuld be via voice over with a href track which when clicked loads the relevant url, or it could be a text track, or other graphic. it is a rich problem. :-) sorry about the denmark scoreline btw. > > I'm paying money to make my work available to the world. If someone > is > presenting my work in a context I don't want it to be presented in I > have copyright on my side all the way. When that someone is actually > making me pay more money to have my work presented out of context I > will get just a little bit annoyed. yes, you're on firm copyright ground here. if i put yoiur video inside my video then it is technically little different to loading a nother site into a frame on my site. the law's pretty clear about this. > > As Peter has pointed out it's pretty easy to prevent these things > with > .htaccess files. I haven't made such a file first of all because I > haven't made more than one video and secondly because I think all > people are good people until proven otherwise. :o) is a good principle but unfortunately online can be expensive. i use a uni. server so don't pay. i hosted a conference, one paper got mentioned on slashdot and we clocked over 20 Gigabytes in a few days. so all it takes is for one of your videos to be mentioned on slashdot, and you host's bandwidth *will* be saturated, and you will pay for an enormous amount of traffic. as someone else mentioned, make sure you have limiters in place before you do this stuff, not after. > > So keep the world wide web alive by linking to the HTML page and not > the video file. It is only fair to the author. yes and no. i intend to make movies that quote other movies, appropriately. After all that makes sense in terms of a video blog. > > - Andreas > > PS. I have a very idealistic approach to how I think copyright should > work. I would like all non-commercial uses to be free of charge, but > at the moment someone is making money distributing or using some of > my > work I fully intend to get paid. > cheers Adrian Miles ................................................................. hypertext.rmit || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/adrian interactive networked video || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog research blog || hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vog/vlog/