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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Taking my videos down (Freeplay Music discussion)

By Markus Sandy | Markus Sandy <markus@...> | apperceive
August 6, 2005 | Post #19094 | Topic #19008

--------------020002090703000309040304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit where does it end? will i eventually have to pay every time i remember a song? generally the only things i have to pay for repeatedly are my mistakes ;-) hmmm, maybe that means the buying commercial music is a mistake, hmmm yesterday, I was unpacking some boxes and I ran into a classic CD. I thought "Hey! I'd like to listen to this." Then it hit me: Why bother? The same amount of time would be better spent finding something new on the archive. we are the media markus Pete Prodoehl wrote: >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)" ><kpdcnettv@c...> wrote: > > >>I ranted on this on my podcast earlier today (which BTW will NOT have >>the open & close I normally attach to each show) and an idea hit me >>that if they were to charge a ONE-TIME flat fee $5 (or whatever the >>minilum value of a Money Order is nowadays) per track download >>REGARDLESS OF USE, they'd make a fuckin' mint. >> >>I mean, think of it this way, how many times do you have to pay for a >>gallon of milk at the grocery store before they actually consider it >>yours to leave with? Answer - ONCE - At the checkout counter. When >>is the next time you pay for milk? Answer - WHEN YOU GET ANOTHER >>GALLON. I've NEVER seen ANY business charge me for something more >> >> >than once. > >But the milk is a physical thing. You consume it, and it's gone. Music >used as branding in a piece of media that can be played over, and >over, and over and seen/heard by millions of people is different than >a gallon of milk a few people will drink. > >Have you ever *bought* music, and by bought, I mean bought the full >rights to any music to do as you please? Most times you are licensing >it. CD's you buy at the store? You don't own those, you don't have the >right to do whatever you want with it. You're just paying for the >rights to do with it what the record companies will allow you to do >with it. > >You've never paid for anything more than once? What about seeing a >movie in a theater more than once, or a band perform more than once. > >I understand your point, but how would you feel if you sold me >unlimited rights to one of your podcasts and I then made millions of >dollars off of it? > >Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org http://spinsummer2005.blogspot.com http://spinsummer2005meetup.blogspot.com http://vloggercuewest.blogspot.com aim/ichat: markus.sandy@... msn: msandy@... skype: msandy --------------020002090703000309040304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> where does it end? <br> will i eventually have to pay every time i remember a song?<br> <br> generally the only things i have to pay for repeatedly are my mistakes ;-)<br> <br> hmmm, maybe that means the buying commercial music is a mistake, hmmm<br> <br> yesterday, I was unpacking some boxes and I ran into a classic CD.<br> I thought "Hey! I'd like to listen to this." <br> Then it hit me:  Why bother?<br> The same amount of time would be better spent finding something new on the archive.<br> <br> we are the media<br> <br> markus<br> <br> Pete Prodoehl wrote: <blockquote cite="middd2c1d+j4c2@..." type="cite"> <pre wrap="">--- In <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com">videoblogging@yahoogroups.com</a>, "Pat Cook (Jeeper One TV)" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kpdcnettv@c..."><kpdcnettv@c...></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I ranted on this on my podcast earlier today (which BTW will NOT have the open & close I normally attach to each show) and an idea hit me that if they were to charge a ONE-TIME flat fee $5 (or whatever the minilum value of a Money Order is nowadays) per track download REGARDLESS OF USE, they'd make a fuckin' mint. I mean, think of it this way, how many times do you have to pay for a gallon of milk at the grocery store before they actually consider it yours to leave with? Answer - ONCE - At the checkout counter. When is the next time you pay for milk? Answer - WHEN YOU GET ANOTHER GALLON. I've NEVER seen ANY business charge me for something more </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!---->than once. But the milk is a physical thing. You consume it, and it's gone. Music used as branding in a piece of media that can be played over, and over, and over and seen/heard by millions of people is different than a gallon of milk a few people will drink. Have you ever *bought* music, and by bought, I mean bought the full rights to any music to do as you please? Most times you are licensing it. CD's you buy at the store? You don't own those, you don't have the right to do whatever you want with it. You're just paying for the rights to do with it what the record companies will allow you to do with it. You've never paid for anything more than once? What about seeing a movie in a theater more than once, or a band perform more than once. I understand your point, but how would you feel if you sold me unlimited rights to one of your podcasts and I then made millions of dollars off of it? Pete ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12haror52/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123340199/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org">"http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12haror52/M=362131.6882499.7825260.1510227/D=groups/S=1705554021:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123340199/A=2889191/R=0/SIG=10r90krvo/*http://www.thebeehive.org "</a>>Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job) Welcome to the Sweet Life - brought to you by One Economy</a>.</font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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